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new wooden hill stream tank (constr jrnl)

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#1 · (Edited)
hi all,

In this hill stream paludarium thread I mentioned that I find the concept good, but the execution can be taken further (especially larger!), to create more different pieces of stream, enabling the keeping of more ´normal´ fish species like tetras. I also want to create walls that are less vertical and more like a slope (at least at some places).

At the same time my wife and I discussed the fact that we could do with some more space in the living room, where this paludarium is situated. And as another room in the house became available (due to change of work), the decision was made to replace the two existing tanks with a large one in a dedicated room.

Here is a Sketchup picture of the room with the new viv.
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Dimensions of the viv will be 215cm at the left end, 280cm at the other side and an inner height of 135cm. The depth is 95cm at the left side and 70cm at the

right side. The two ´legs´ are positioned at a bit more than a 100 degrees towards each other.


To get a better idea what I wanted I did a lot of sketching, like this one:
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In the final design the room under the tank is used and covered by some sheets of plywood.


Artist´s impression of the tank; I use the back window to create some depth (the window faces North, so the light will be rather diffuse)
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Beneath the actual tank there is room for making RO water (to be mixed with a bit of tap water), automatic water refreshing and a large (160x50x50cm) tank in which four large pond pumps will be placed, that are essential for making a hill stream tank.

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September last year I started the constructional work (which I plan to end at about June this year). The material used is a good 18mm plywood, which will be

covered with epoxy and glassfiber mats.

The best start of course is to have an empty room...

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(Before this I painted the wall with some moisture resistant coating.)

I glue the plywood pieces with Poly-urethane glue (don´t know the English equivalent) - even if I wanted, there would have been no space to work with screws.

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Part of the automatic refreshing system: a small pump, pumping water to the drain regularely, which will be replaced by a 3:1 RO - tap water mix from the

reservoirs.

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The tank through which the water will flow back to the large pumps. There is a biological filter inside, like used for large fish tanks.

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Where the water will flow back to the pumps:
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Packed in foam, to avoid loss of warmth (by the way, the pumps will act as heaters):
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The right part is higher as part of the ´hill´ and to enable access to the pumps in the tank:
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The walls behind the tank are covered with styropar sheets for insulation:
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The standing plywood back:
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Dividing the part for the lights and ventilators (the holes are 40mm in diameter and will be covered with wire mesh)

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A lot of holes for the pipes (here the ones that will bring the water back from the pumps into the tank):
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I sawed the pieces of plywood behind which the glass windows will be placed (45cm high and then sliding ones on top).
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Inside, below the lights (the boxes at the end are to place some ventilators for circulation inside the tank):

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Between the pumps and the tank I place some taps to regulate the amount of water flowing through each pipe. In the picture they stand above the floor, but once glued they will hang under the tank. Pipes are 40mm in diameter. The total pump capacity is 19000 liters an hour (5000 US gallons), although some is lost because of the height to which the water is pumped.
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At these points in the rear end of the tank, the water will flow back to the reservoir under the tank:

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In the left side there is another pump under the tank for a waterfall at that side:

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I hope the pictures help you to understand what I am doing - I feel my technical English is lacking a bit...

Questions, suggestions and criticism is very much appreciated. Some way this is quite an adventure as there are so few examples of this type of tank building (I fortunate enough to get the help of the man behind this tank, Hans Pietersma).
Any input is welcome!
 
#7 ·
i hope you understand i mean this in the nicest way possible... i hate you. Im really just joking this is such a very cool project and am very jealous of both the room you have for such an amazing tank and for your amazing artistic skills shown already in previous post. I have subscribed to this thread adn will be following this till the end!
 
#13 ·
Thank you for the week, I am afraid I need just a little bit more :rolleyes:

An inch is 2.54cm (at least in the UK). So your tank would be 72" x 24" x 30"?


As for the inhabitants, I just think about moving the frogs, gekkos and fishes from my exisiting tanks and see how they do. Probably some more fishes and some new generations of Mannophryne would be nice...
 
#16 ·
Ok Ok a week and a half will work for me :D

Perfect on with the size, but i have it started and after looking at your builds im ready to rip out everything ive done! Wish i could figure out what to put in there.

Again beautiful and cant wait for the updates!!!!
 
#15 ·
That is one of the most impressive undertakings I have seen. I am completely impressed by what you have acomplished. Great job. I, like others, can't wait to see the finish results.
 
#20 ·
I plan to get the epoxy stuff this week, so I could do only a few minor things.

First I installed the tubes for the water that flows back to the reservoir. I haven´t glued them yet, as I first want to do the epoxy.
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I placed the acryl glass window; of course the frame will be hidden in the background once made.
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Cleaned the tank a bit:
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A proud family in their new home...
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Or better this way?
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I also played around with the division of land and water. Just some pieces of foam to get a rough idea.

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As seen from the entrance door of the room:
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Please feel free to comment, ask for explanation or whatever!
 
#21 ·
THIS IS SPARTA! Hahaha, just kidding, that's how excited this build made me. It looks insane. I really can't wait until it's done. I hate finding cool threads like this before they are done. I have no patience.
 
#26 ·
You never really realise the size of the cage or say to your self this is huge, until you can fit inside it.

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:D

Lovin' the work so far, maybe some more pictures of how the plumbing looks underneath? How deep is the water going to be? Will there be a drip wall of some type? What's going to light this beast?


Keep it up!
 
#27 ·
hi Nick,

I haven´t really more photos than I already showed. Basically the plumbing is like this:

there is a tap at left side with a RO attached. Then there is small tank with an RO water reservoir (about 20 gallons) and a rest water reservoir (about 8 gallons).
At the right hand side under the tank is a 64x20x20inch tank used as a biological filter; the 4 pumps will be placed in there delivering a 5000 gallons an hour (well, less because of the height of about 3 feet to the points where the water flows into the actual vivarium).

I have 4 points where the water flows into the viv, 2 right above the right hand side of the tank, one about 1.5 feet higher and one with a horizontal arm attached to create a broad dripping wall (well, a bit more than just dripping - make that small waterfalls).

At the left hand side I also have a pump as used for central heating systems to create a 3 ft high waterfall there.


The water refreshing system is simple. Each week I plan to run a little pump in the large reservoir for a couple of minuts, to get about 10 gallons of water to the sewer. Then I run another small pump in the RO water reservoir to add 7 gallons of RO water and then again another small pump to pump 3 gallons of rest water into the reservoir. That way I can get water hardness (is that the technical frase?) I like.

Then there is a lot of water evaporating from the tank. I just can pump RO water to get things back to the level I want.


The water level inside the vivarium will be mainly 30cm / 12inch, apart from the right hand side where I try to get water levels of 10cm and 40cm higher respectively (a bit like rapids in a small burn).

Between the pumps and the actual viv I made a connecting pipe and 4 taps (cocks?) enabling a precise regulation of the amount of water flowing at the different points into the viv.


Again, I hope I make myself clear - just ask in case I am not :eek:
 
#28 ·
About lights: I have in the present hill stream tank 4 80W T5 lights (everything is 220V here). Then I have got some small lights (12W) for a slow start of the morning and a slow end of the day (poor man´s dimming system :)). Apart from that a couple of hours a 40W heating lamp and a UV emitting light for the lizards.

I my other viv there are 2 80W T5 lights and a couple of 36W PL lights.


I plan to use all of these as well as two 70W spotlights to add some atmosphere in the evenings (with the 80W lights out).