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I used great stuff to stick all of my cork bark to the walls, and it seems to be holding quite well. I've trimmed the great stuff back, and I'm ready to stuff in the sphagnum moss. So, does it matter whether the moss is wet or dry when I stuff it in?
I do it wet, on the theory that doing it dry may be breaking it up into smaller pieces that are more likely to fall out. Get it wet and squeeze the excess moisture out.
 
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Ok sorry to resurrect a dead thread, but I dug this up because of another thread and realized I had never posted a pick of the hex grown mostly grown in so figured I'd do that now (The tank went to friends I haven't seen in awhile...it may look like crap now)...and some people really like this method but the thread is old so many may not have seen it and get some benefit from it....I hope.

Anyways here are a couple shots of the hex (sorry many have you have already seen it, I know). More pics/video in the gallery/youtube links below in my signature of this tank/construction and much much more.

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I'm glad you did resurrect it. I was actually waffling about whether or not to buy some hygrolon to use in my viv build because I want to have moss growing between the cork pieces but this looks so much easier than trying to figure out how to attach the hygrolon and cork.
 
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I'm glad you did resurrect it. I was actually waffling about whether or not to buy some hygrolon to use in my viv build because I want to have moss growing between the cork pieces but this looks so much easier than trying to figure out how to attach the hygrolon and cork.
Thanks... I'll actually be trying to mix some hygrolon in the next one I build this way. So you might experiment with that.
 
Hmm not too sure about how to do that, especially as this is my first terrarium/vivarium.

I figure I'm breaking the KISS principle enough by going with a internal fan for interior air circulation and getting more creative than just a fern tree panel for the background.
 
Hmm not too sure about how to do that, especially as this is my first terrarium/vivarium.

I figure I'm breaking the KISS principle enough by going with a internal fan for interior air circulation and getting more creative than just a fern tree panel for the background.
I used the cork bark mosaic for my first and only viv. i did not include a drip wall or anything fancy, but the silicone, cork and sphagnum were super easy to apply.
 
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Hmm not too sure about how to do that, especially as this is my first terrarium/vivarium.

I figure I'm breaking the KISS principle enough by going with a internal fan for interior air circulation and getting more creative than just a fern tree panel for the background.
Well actually I think I had "epiweb/ecoweb" in my head because it is hard to make the sphagnum stay in place in gaps more then an inch wide usually, so if you want an area with more green in some places instead of putting a cork piece there as part of the mosaic just put a piece of epi/eco web. Then if need be you can pack sphagnum into any gaps just like you would between 2 cork pieces, only this time it is a cork piece and an epiweb piece you are packing the moss between.

But...
You can also use shaped pieces of pvc, or foam, panels or some type, or even real wood fully or partially wrapped with some hygrolon in places to help things grow there. Basically it is just one more tool to help you do something where that something may not be easily achieved with other methods... It's up to you to be creative :)

I'd recommend researching the hygrolon threads to see what others have done with it to give you some ideas. I've been to poor to actually start experimenting with it so far, but I'm sure I can find some uses for it :D
 
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I used the cork bark mosaic for my first and only viv. i did not include a drip wall or anything fancy, but the silicone, cork and sphagnum were super easy to apply.
If you hand mist regularly or better yet have an automated misting system that hits the back wall you probably wouldn't need a drip wall. The moss and stuff will soak up and/or wick up enough water from misting and the substrate unless maybe you have some super super moisture loving plants back there.
 
If you hand mist regularly or better yet have an automated misting system that hits the back wall you probably wouldn't need a drip wall. The moss and stuff will soak up and/or wick up enough water from misting and the substrate unless maybe you have some super super moisture loving plants back there.
I do hand mist regularly, and it does work fine, my sphagnum is also coming back to life all over the background. =)

I also have some crypts, vines, and some other random plants on there. everything is doing great.
 
Hmm...so it sounds like a drip wall might not be necessary? I am planning my first viv and I really like this mosaic method, however I am not sure I want to add the drip wall feature. Reason being, I am planning to have a fairly thick layer of foam so that I can have pots buried in the background and I think I will have to make the drainage section wider than I would like using up valuable real estate for planting in my 18x18 bottom.

My other question is for long term success of the background I am planning on using black silicone, letting it dry and then applying the foam. Before the foam dries I was planning a attaching the cork tile pieces. Does this sound good or is it overkill?
 
I've been planning on setting up a viv using this method, but incorporating strips of Hygrolon laid down behind the sphagnum. I'm thinking that one wouldn't even need to glue the fabric down to the glass as the sphagnum should hold it in place. Hopefully this would increase the moisture content all the way up the wall, though I'm not sure that the hygrolon would be powerful enough to wick all the way to the top and supply moisture to all of that sphagnum. This may actually be one of two scenarios that Hygrolon's competitor Aquamat may do better than it with its supposedly larger water wicking and retention abilities (the other for simply attaching to flat glass to raise humidity in a tank or open-air environment (probably with some creeping fig thrown on it as well, because it's ridiculous not to grow some type of plant on such a material)). At the very least, using one of these materials should lengthen the timespan of how long the moss will stay moist after misting, or prevent it from fully drying out.

I'd love someone else to try this, as I would only be able to do a small portion as an experiment, and probably not even enough to determine if it's worthwhile or not.
 
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Since this thread recently got referenced again, and when I looked at it realized I never added some of the Hex construction pics I figured I'd do that instead of forcing everyone to my Flickr account...

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Kinda the only shot I think of the intermediate stage between construction and grown in, so I'll include it even though it sucks...

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Take that back here is another a bit further along...
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And if you wanna dig through all the pics, here they are...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/53171039@N07/

Refer to earlier posts or the Flickr to see the finished product :)

Sorry no actual updates since the viv went to friends years ago, but they said it is still running last time I heard.


Someone has probably thought of it, but next time I use this method I wanna try covering the glass in spyra, or hygrolon and then attaching the cork so the moisture wicks into the background keeping it moist with less need of misting or a drip wall. If anyone has done this in the original way without foaming in the mosaic I'd like to see/hear how it worked for you. I see no harm in it at least, but I think it will likely improve on the original method. Maybe it will stop people from feeling the need to foam in the mosaic! ...still looks nice, but don't be afraid people. Cork/glass/sphag, that is all you really need :p
 
Someone has probably thought of it, but next time I use this method I wanna try covering the glass in spyra, or hygrolon and then attaching the cork so the moisture wicks into the background keeping it moist with less need of misting or a drip wall.[...] I see no harm in it at least, but I think it will likely improve on the original method.
Oh man 100% yes. I just picked up a bunch of it myself and will be doing this with my next viv one way or another.

I would imagine it could be a nice addition to a clay background as well. With the clay I would imagine you could lay down your first level of clay, stick the synthetic medium to it and recover the synthetic with clay. Creative use of egg crate could prevent the slippage of the clay layers and the synthetic media would wick up through the clay layer while also covering the eggcrate. Might improve the longevity of the background.
 
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