If you look at most tigers in captivity by private individuals here in the states proves that a tiger is not just a tiger. We have a tiger/big cat rescue less than an hour from my house. There are 5 main types of tigers and a lot of tigers in private hands are crosses of these which makes them undesireable to reputable establishments. Makes it difficult to find new homes for them when the animals through no fault of its own no longer fits your lifestyle.snake keepers do it gecko keepers do it fish kepers do it spider kepers do it zoos mix stuff like lions and tigers dog keepers do it i wont force it but i wont kill the eggs
^correct correct correctThe same happens with individuals in the hobby. Sure creating something new is cool at first, after a while its just another frog. If you do not want to use the search feature, look through my posts as I have commented on most hybrid threads.
Putting a male and female together is basically forcing itsnake keepers do it gecko keepers do it fish kepers do it spider kepers do it zoos mix stuff like lions and tigers dog keepers do it i wont force it but i wont kill the eggs
You got a red mark for this post?Keeping the blood line pure
aggression toward different species in the same enclosure
Feeding
Temps
Stress
Bullying
I take it by your post you are allready mixing?
Please read the mixing sticky on page 2 of the care sheets forum.
John
I agree with you and I would like to expand on it. Since there are such small populations of some species in the hobby that if a crossbred frog is introduced it could completely "taint" an entire species kept in the hobby which could eventually result in the loss of that species in the hobby. I know that it may take a while for this to happen but it is possible especially since some species are only represented by a single bloodline and the number of people continously breeding these species are very few.The biggest argument against hybrids (in my eyes) is that many people won't maintain a hobby, whether it be stamp collecting, golfing, or keeping PDFs, for an extended amount of time (let's say more than 10 years). I believe that this is especially applicable when the hobbyist is in their teens or even 20s (yes I fit into that category as well). Once they're done with the hobby the hybrid(s) that they didn't have the heart to euthanize as eggs could then leak out into the hobby and could potentially be introduced into a pure line and "taint" a bloodline that so many others have worked so hard to maintain. By producing hybrids, or allowing them to be produced, you're ruining it for everyone else. It's like a devoted baseball card collector being sold a counterfeit. My advice is that if you're unwilling to destroy eggs, then prepare to keep all of the offspring for their entire lifespan which can be upwards of a decade.
Look at Ball Pythons for example...Breeding for the sake of a particular color variation or morph. Although this is perhaps a unique way for expressing visual genetics at it finest, it does nothing but hurt the hobby by mixing blood lines and making it more and more likely to produce gross deformities down the line.
I believe in the end all this post will conclude is that do with your frogs as you will, but if you begin to try and market these crosses down the line you will most likely not sell any of the hybrids. Look at the Frog Classifieds Section "Accidental Hybrid and Auratus for sale" you will notice that nearly 500 people have looked at the listings but only a few have responded and this is merely because of a sympathy pickup because this gentlemen needs to clear his collection.
Just be responsible, mix tanks if you will for your enjoyment but don't begin marketing hybrids for it will do nothing but hurt our hobby in the long run.
Best,
widmad27
Agreed.Look at Ball Pythons for example...Breeding for the sake of a particular color variation or morph. Although this is perhaps a unique way for expressing visual genetics at it finest, it does nothing but hurt the hobby by mixing blood lines and making it more and more likely to produce gross deformities down the line.
I just want to add, that until Enlightened Rogue, commented on the ding, this was a dead thread with the original OP never responding to any of the input.. by bringing it back up, it has started the discussion going again, and without the OP....
Let it quietly fade away...
