[johnyrocks]

Here's the video, before I was placing this in the wrong forum sections, but here. Getting the plants in about 4 days. Gonna fill up the pond with rest of gravel maybe tomorrow.

 

[johnyrocks]

That's exactly what I plan on doing. Also, it does look bigger than a 10 gallon, doesn't it? Lol. I followed what Grimm was doing with his tank and his is a 20 high, and I thought it was a 10 gallon lol. My mistake, so it looks a bit bigger. I might take the false bottom out though and make it a little shorter. Right now it's 3 little egg crate boxes high and I might cut to to 2 high. Thanks for the comment.

 

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I was thinking to get some black sand at first, but I thought that it wouldn't get me the look I wanted, and the waterfall might displace it. Ugh, i made a mistake o th false bottom too. I made it higher than I wanted, and it is a big pain to remove it.

 

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Oh. Well maybe I should try sand. I'm wondering how the frogs would like it. Could it irritate their skin?

 

[johnyrocks]

to be honest, there is very little usable space in that tank. With the water feature and clay background, you probably only have 60% of the floor space you started with. On top of that, if you just have java moss and no leaf litter, this provides almost nowhere for the frogs to hide and microfauna to grow. What are the dimensions of the tank? if it is 20x10x12 then its a ten gallon.

What frogs are you planning to get?

BTW a water feature may look nice, but its just an added danger for the frogs and takes away from usable space. Don't get me wrong, your tank looks good, i just fear it may not be the best it could be for the frogs at the moment.

Ryan

Edit: just watched the rest of the video. Glad you will be using at least some leaf litter. Sounds like you are stuffing if full of plants though. Just remember, some of those plants get really big really fast, so you will have to be doing constant trimming. Good luck!

Either 1 luec or maybe actually a thumbnail type. There won't be alot of water, about a 2x2x3/4 area of water, so shallow and small. I'm copying someone that did the exact same setup but had a 20h and the floor area is almost exactly the same, aand kept 2 luecs, but like I said, i'd only keep 1. So I measured the total floor area w/ the gravel in, and the main area is 12x10 and the pond has about a 5x4 area. So it's about 80% of the original floor space.

 

[johnyrocks]

By the way, the plants i'm getting are now just 1 brom, creeping fig, philodendren, and one other creeper along with a few more they threw in. Good thing I reordered while I could, plants would of taken over the whole tank! lol.

 

[johnyrocks]

keep in mind that the floor will be even further limited with plants. Also, just because someone else does something, that doesn't mean you should do it

Very true, but it was the first "nice" small dart tank with a water feature and tons of nice plants. That's why I copied him. Now, about the plants taking up space. All of my plants are cuttings and will take up almost no ground space, as they will trail up the background. Also my brom will be in the background, too. Here's the person i'm trying to imitate, but remember he's using a 20h, not a 10. Please look at how he planted his plants in the ground. In the very back, right up next to the background.

 

[johnyrocks]

are these your first frogs??? if so, please do not get a thumbnail species. Just because they are small does not mean they live in a small space. Plus they generally like more vertical oriented tanks with densely planted back walls. One leuc might be ok in there.

Lord volde.... Uh i mean He who shall not be named, get back to work on the peninsula! lol

lol, the back wall will have tons and tons of plants, 10 to START with, and more once everything settles in.

 

[johnyrocks]

just a tip johnny,


speaking from personal experience (and failures) everybody tries to fit far more than is viable into their tanks. a 10gal is TINY....even if you are managing to just barely squeeze all that stuff into it, once it starts to grow out you will have space/cramping issues....


not saying you aren't doing a good job for starters, but a 10gal is a really small tank....

I know. I should of waited. I found this really good deal on a freakin 100 gallon tank on craigslist. 50$. Can't beat that lol. Has the light and gravel with a canister filter. Oh well. I know the plants will grow quick, no problem. Some of the plants i'm ordering I will grow a bit more and sell them when all the plants start taking over. For instance, i'm getting 4 species of pepormorelia. Don't need that much! lol. Thanks though.

 

[johnyrocks]

buy a bigger tank, do a great build wich will be more satisfying in the end.
use the 10 gallon as a quarantine/froglet tank(ish)

Na. I did some research on thumbnails, I made the background larger, and i'm going to get a pair of imitators. Hopefully they'll get used to a horz tank, not a vert. Oh well. My next build will be a 29g river and root theme. There will be a root system in the back left and a nice river going through the middle. I'll do the great stuff background for this one, just because it'll be easier and will look better in a larger viv.

 

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---UPDATE--- I got the gravel in and smoothed out the background. The plants will come either July 5th or 6th. I hope earlier, but i dont know. I'll take some pics when I get the plants in. I made a new order and I should be getting 1xBromeliad, 1xpothos vine, 1xbegonia(which I might not use, it looks like an african violet, I think it is , 2xwandering jew, 3xpepperomia, 2xphilodendron. I'm not a hundred percent sure though. I am buying these off ebay, I couldn't pass the deal, it is a 10 plant vivarium lot for 9$ And it's a reputable seller. So, like I said, pics when they come. Also a question. Any tips with condensation on the glass? I don't have much during the day because the temps are at about 78-80 but when I flip the lights off the temp goes to about 70 and when I wake up, I cant even see in the glass because there's so much condensation. I tried putting an 80mm fan in the pump access port, but the ac/dc adapter I had was being stubborn and I only got to get the fan running for 5 minutes before one of the wires moved the slightest bit, and I couldn't get it going again. Any tips? Should I solder the wires in?