[goncalo]

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Hi,

I bought some time about a epipedobates tricolor and now get some e. anthonyi because i thought the e.tricolor was anthonyi too.

I am asking for help to confirm if the frog from photos is a tricolor or anthonyi, i guess its tricolor but i am not an expert since i haven´t seen a really tricolor to confirm if it the same or not.

Thanks for help,

 

[ExoticPocket]

That looks a lot like the Highland Tricolor.

 

[stemcellular]

That looks a lot like the Highland Tricolor.

Which is Epipedobates anthonyi, not E. tricolor.

 

[stemcellular]

By size comparison, tricolor are also much smaller than anthonyi.

 

[ggazonas]

By size comparison, tricolor are also much smaller than anthonyi.

I wouldn't necessarily say that. I have a large group of highland tricolors and many of them are the same size or even a tad bigger than some of the anthonyi morphs i keep.

Also I don't think its a highland. They are usually solid cream with burgundy red on the sides.

 

[stemcellular]

Of course they are George, since your highland "tricolors" are anthonyi!

When compared to E. tricolor (both ABG and the EU imports) all the highland anthonyi that I've seen are much larger (like Santa Isabels).

 

[stemcellular]

Also I don't think its a highland. They are usually solid cream with burgundy red on the sides.

Looks like a highland E. anthonyi to me, albeit with reduced white on the dorsum.

To the OP, this is what a true E. tricolor looks like.
http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/members-frogs-vivariums/69076-e-tricolor-moraspungo.html
http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/epipedobates/61648-epipedobates-tricolor.html


You can see what E. anthonyi 'Highland' look like here (my group from Europe)
http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/members-frogs-vivariums/9654-lets-see-those-epipedobates-4.html

 

[ggazonas]

Of course they are George, since your highland "tricolors" are anthonyi!

When compared to E. tricolor (both ABG and the EU imports) all the highland anthonyi that I've seen are much larger (like Santa Isabels).

I'm a bit confused by the first sentence. Can you clarify some?

 

[stemcellular]

Sorry. There are no such thing as "Highland tricolor". All of the "Highland tricolor" coming in from Europe are a population of E. anthonyi. If your Highlands are from Sean Stewart, they are E. anthonyi, not E. tricolor.

 

[stemcellular]

this is where Ron chimes in and wows us with his knowledge of E. tricolor and E. anthonyi geography.

 

[stemcellular]

This should help differentiate a bit as well.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23176486/DN Mag article on E. tricolor.pdf

 

[ggazonas]

Yes that is where i was getting confused. The highlands are anthonyi and the moraspunga are tricolors........I know there has been some confusion with what was a tricolor and anthonyi.

Well in that case I would say my moraspunga are slightly smaller or about the same size as some anthonyi species. So I would agree that the tricolors are a bit smaller.

However I still am not positive if that is a highland.

To the OP, if you have another shot or more images of that frog can you post them.

 

[stemcellular]

Agreed.

A venter shot might help as well.

 

[thedude]

ahem...'Tierra Alta'


first of all, is the OP in the US or EU? because that looks like certain populations we dont have.

then again, you two would know way better than me.

 

[stemcellular]

Looks like EU. I've seen highland anthonyi that look like his...I have a pair from the old line that have crazy cream swiggles (haha) on their dorsum as opposed to the new imports which are mostly cream. Just a really variable population (or populations) of anthonyi..

 

[Shockfrog]

This should help differentiate a bit as well.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23176486/DN Mag article on E. tricolor.pdf

Sorry for going of topic: but I don't think this will help in making our English issue viable. But on the other hand, if you like this article, please subscribe to the magazine. We can use alot more members. Too few members will eventually mean pulling the plug on this project.

 

[stemcellular]

Yeah, the mag is VERY WELL WORTH the subscription. Remco, I'm happy to pull the link if you think it necessary. On the other hand, it does serve as a fantastic example of why the magazine is so good. Also, I should ask Peter, but have you thought of offering the mag online for download? Seems it would be cheaper to produce and subsequently sign more folks up for.

 

[goncalo]

Hi,

I will get more shots to clarify the specie, thanks for replies
Im from EU (Portugal), and this epipedobates came from terribilis a year ago.

Thanks for help

 

[Shockfrog]

Yeah, the mag is VERY WELL WORTH the subscription. Remco, I'm happy to pull the link if you think it necessary. On the other hand, it does serve as a fantastic example of why the magazine is so good. Also, I should ask Peter, but have you thought of offering the mag online for download? Seems it would be cheaper to produce and subsequently sign more folks up for.

Well let it be a example of how good the mag is

Yeah we have thought about offering online, but we have decided not to...