Tinctorius clutch

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RNKot

Discussion Starter · Jul 21, 2011

After some unfertilized eggs got some development in D. Tinctorius eggs.
The oldest clutch is about 3 weeks old but in Poison Frogs by
Biology, Speciea & Captive Husbandry Lotters, Jungfer, Henkel & Schmidt / Chimaira are said to hatch 10-12 days. I see development but no movement in the eggs. Just curious if they'r going well

Mine D. Tinctorius prefer film canisters, saw no eggs under the cocohuts with petri dish.

The oldest clutch - more than 3 weeks - definitely dead. White dots are collembola or mites - i don't know, the'r tooooooo smal

Clutch №2, about two weeks old.
Tadpoles are about 7mm

№3. Add one more week. Best seen on white

The latest one, eggs are black, flashlight changed the coloration.

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WendySHall

· #2 · Jul 22, 2011

Congratulations! What type of tinc are they?

varanoid

· #3 · Jul 22, 2011

Nice! Congratulations. Hope they keep it up!

RNKot

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jul 22, 2011

WendySHall said:
Congratulations! What type of tinc are they?

Seller got no exact info about their morph. I guess them to be Dwarf Cobalt - French Guiana - Nominant.

Question: is it normal that tadpoles dewelop in eggs more than two weeks?... Mina are still in the eggs, but showing development, still not moving.

Woodsman

· #5 · Jul 22, 2011

Hi RNkot,

The first clutch looks bad, but the other two seem fine. I find it's not very easy to work with D. tinctorius eggs when they are laid in film canisters, so you may want to remove them. The frogs will get used to laying on a petri dish in the coco-hut, which will work a lot better for you in the long run.

If you want to raise the tadpoles outside the vivarium, you can take the canisters out and lay them on their side in a dish with a small amount of water (not enough to cover the eggs). When they eggs hatch, the tads can be moved to their growing containers.

Good luck with them, Richard.

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GregF

· #6 · Jul 24, 2011

Mine have taken up to 17-18 days, at 78F. Usually they'll wiggle a bit after 10 days, when I spray water or shine a light on them. After they hatch, they'll often be still for 3-4 days.

RNKot

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jul 25, 2011

Got first movement - reaction to light. It's about 20+ days already. Temperature is the same.
Getting ready to rise about 15 tadpoles.

ChgoHerp

· #8 · Jul 31, 2011

Just curious. are you providing them with a petrie lid with some type of cover over it? It makes it a lot easier to move just the tadpoles and not the other eggs.

RNKot

Discussion Starter · #9 · Aug 1, 2011

ChgoHerp, they have Petri dish covered with half of coco nut, but didn't use it, instead i founnd my clutches in film canisters only.

How long does it takes for tadpoles to hatch from eggs? Thery'r about 4 weeks already, showing development & low activity, but none hatched...

WendySHall

· #10 · Aug 1, 2011

Wow! 4 weeks and still in the egg seems to be a long time. Mine generally take about 2 weeks, give or take a few days. I'm not sure what could make them take so long...perhaps temps? If so, mine are kept in the 70's if that helps. You may want to do a slow temp change, a radical jump probably wouldn't be good.

RNKot

Discussion Starter · #11 · Aug 1, 2011

I'm really confused

Temperatures are about 74-77°F
Out for rereading any info i can find

frogfreak

· #12 · Aug 1, 2011

14 days is what most would say to be in the normal range, but there are exceptions. I haven't had eggs take that long to hatch out, but did have a tad in the water for 6 months that came onto land just fine. I'd just wait and see what happens. There's not much you can do at this point. Let mother nature take it's course and just go along for the ride.

RNKot

Discussion Starter · #13 · Aug 1, 2011

Happened

Came home & found first one to hatch

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Godkinw

· #14 · Aug 16, 2011

What type of container is best to raise tinc tadpoles in? I successfully raised a single tadpole, but now I have many and I've been reading on this site about growth hormone inhibition. Can I just use small plastic cups, or do they need something bigger?

What do you all use for your tadpoles?

WendySHall

· #15 · Aug 16, 2011

Tinc tads are known not only for secreting hormones that will inhibit the growth of other tads, but also for their tendency to be cannibalistic. So, although some have reported success raising them together...I find it best not to take chances and raise each tad separate.

Here is a link to the cups that I get from Josh's...
16 oz. Tadpole Cup - Tadpole Containers | Josh's Frogs
He also sells them in bulk quantities of 100 and 500 I believe.

You also want to have lids available for when they sprout legs (just in case they start to climb the sides before you notice). Josh's vented fruit fly lids will fit these containers, or you can get the solid plastic ones that they sell and poke holes in them which ends up a little cheaper.

I've also heard of people using regular small plastic drinking cups or plastic butter bowls, etc to raise tads. Just be sure that you have a lid that fits it. Nothing would be worse than spending 2 months (or more) raising a tad only to have it escape and die.

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RNKot

Discussion Starter · #16 · Oct 31, 2011

Some Tinctorius are still with tails.

Others nearly morphed.

And finaly i got trio of first Tinctorius froglets.

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RNKot

Discussion Starter · #17 · Oct 31, 2011

Hatched from eggs 2 august
Ouf of water 28 october

illinoisfrogs

· #18 · Nov 1, 2011

They look good!

WendySHall

· #19 · Nov 1, 2011

They are adorable! Congratulations!!!

jdooley195

· #20 · Nov 2, 2011

Wow! I love that pattern... Was it dwarf cobalt someone mentioned earlier? If not, what are those?

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