Temps for Dendro. Azureus

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Dartolution

Discussion Starter · Dec 26, 2011

I have a 20long that has been set up for about 8 months now and I feel as though I am ready to put a couple frogs in it finally.

So other than going ahead and getting Springtail and FF cultures going.
I was thinking about either a single Dendrobates Tinctorius "Azureus" or a pair.

is this tank size acceptable?

Also the temperature is a concern.

It drops down to about 68 at night and 73 during the day as a high.

is this too cool?

Its a very basic little viv with no fans in it I was hoping to install a small fan somehow just havent yet.

other than that what do you guys think?

heres a picture or two.

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DragonSpirit1185

· #21 · Dec 27, 2011 (Edited)

Dartolution said:
Brandon there is so much PAR produced by my current setup if I drop it any lower I might as well be growing these plants on the surface of mercury. They are still getting slightly burned when it's 3 feet away and taken a month and a half to get them up to 8 hrs daily. Haha

Your current spectrum isnt incredibly conducive to plant growth.

Not sure what you mean by fans Todd is selling :-/

I'm not exactly sure what PAR means

I meant 6500k a peice...also they are 23w not 26w..sorry man my brain is just fried...got a lot going on. Most are 26w so I got mixed up lol idk where 2600k came from lol.
here is a pic and my thread link.

I mentioned Todd's ad for these neat circulation fans but I guess you missed it lol. It was in my first post I will post it again, it is in bold below.
It's in the green text, it looks like plain text and not a link...easy to miss

DragonSpirit1185 said:
Looks like you are off to a great start
It looks great and nice shrooms
I wish I was that lucky to have some shrooms pop up.
Wonder where they came from lol cause I want some to pop up in my viv.
I never had any luck with fittonia. I hope you have better luck than I did lol and purple waffle plants are awesome and grow pretty fast.

Check out these fans Todd has.
http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/sponsor-classifieds/77041-air-circulation-new-year.html
They look pretty neat. Plus no wiring or anything just slap some screen on it and you are good to go.
You could throw some silicone and cocofiber on them to help it blend in.
Pointing the tip towards the front glass should keep the front's condensation down so you can have a clear view.

Can't wait to see the frogs you pick. Take care

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Ed

· #22 · Dec 27, 2011

Condensation on the glass is a function of the temperature difference between the inside and the outside of the tank. If there is enough of a temperature difference, the fan will not prevent water from condensing on the glass..

Ed

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Micro

· #23 · Dec 27, 2011

this is why you guys and girls should live in SoCal! Its always frog temp outside! lol

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curlykid

· #24 · Dec 27, 2011

PAR = Photosynthetic Available Radiation for those of you who didn't know. It's a much more relevant unit than lumens are

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DragonSpirit1185

· #25 · Dec 27, 2011

curlykid said:
PAR = Photosynthetic Available Radiation for those of you who didn't know. It's a much more relevant unit than lumens are

thanks for the clarification.
I will be posting a thread about photosynthesis in the plant section soon.
Maybe you can shed some "light" onto the discussion lol

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Paul S

· #26 · Dec 28, 2011

i like the viv . looks great cant wait to see some azureus in there

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Dartolution

Discussion Starter · #27 · Dec 28, 2011

Thanks Paul. Simple first one as it is I can't wait either.

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Jon Mason

· #28 · Dec 31, 2011

Your tank looks great and is ready for frogs. It will easily accommodate a pair. The temps are fine also.

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Dartolution

Discussion Starter · #29 · Jan 8, 2012

Thanks guys!
So the money has come in and I'm back from vacationing in south Florida and the keys and I feel it's time to make my first dart frog purchase!

Putting dendro Azureus in the 20L while the 65 custom built is still under constructo mode.

Wondering if I should just order one or two at the same time...

Thoughts?

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Baltimore Bryan

· #30 · Jan 8, 2012

Dartolution said:
Wondering if I should just order one or two at the same time...

Thoughts?

I don't think it really matters a lot of you buy one or two right now while they are young. If they were older and you didn't end up with a pair, there could be problems with aggression if you got one, let it become established, and add another of the same sex. If you plan on getting froglets, I don't think it will make much of a difference. The only real benefit of ordering two at the same time I guess would be you don't have to pay shipping or drive out to pick them up from wherever twice.
Bryan

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Dartolution

Discussion Starter · #31 · Jan 8, 2012

Thanks Bryan!

So I ordered two from Saurian Enterprises "large juveniles" is what they offered.

I also ordered Fruit Fly cultures and a kit from Joshes Frogs , and Temperate Springtails.

Melanogaster FF's btw...

sound good?

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DragonSpirit1185

· #32 · Jan 8, 2012

Dartolution said:
Thanks Bryan!

So I ordered two from Saurian Enterprises "large juveniles" is what they offered.

I also ordered Fruit Fly cultures and a kit from Joshes Frogs , and Temperate Springtails.

Melanogaster FF's btw...

sound good?

I read that these are your first PDFs?
I would really get culturing down before you get frogs.
If you are adamant about getting the darts without getting a good grip on culturing first then try to make sure you have a frogging buddy near you in case your cultures crash.

I wish you the best of luck with your frogs and cultures

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Dartolution

Discussion Starter · #33 · Jan 8, 2012

Thanks for the advice Dragon.

Culturing insects is not a problem for me at all.

And yes I do have a friend who has luec's

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