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Hello all,

I have a pair of d. tinctorius powder blues in a 20H viv. They have been fine until about a month ago when, for some unknown reason, seems like all hell broke loose, and every frog in my house has decided to glass climb. Spring fever?

I was not too worried about the glass climbing until my female powder blue has what looks like an injured arm. It's awkward looking, like it's twisted or sprained, maybe? I have been keeping a keen eye on her, and I'm luck enough to have a husband that works from home 3 days a week. He can update me as to her actions. Every time it looks bad, and I think about isolating her in a shoebox where she can't try to climb or get into general mischief, she'll look 100%. Then, I go back to watching her.

What are your thoughts? Should I put her into a safe shoebox for a while? Or let her work it out? I am clueless but worried - she was my first frog, and my "momma frog". (Only breeding pair I've got as of yet, and she gave me my first WOO HOO about 3-4 months ago.)

Your insight is appreciated!
 
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How is she eating, moving around, and is she holding weight? If there are any doubts I would pull her so you can watch her much closer. If you can get a picture to, I want to see what this looks like.

Hope she heals,
 
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See, that's just it, she's eating & getting about OK. Not the best, but she does not seem hindered at all. She does not put all her weight on it, it seems.

I wish I could get you a photo, but alas, no digi cam. (last person on earth, i think) But, it's twisted around, like a ballarina or something. Like a 90 degree difference from the other foot/leg.
 

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Sounds almost dislocated, but not sure how you would tell.

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See, that's just it, she's eating & getting about OK. Not the best, but she does not seem hindered at all. She does not put all her weight on it, it seems.

I wish I could get you a photo, but alas, no digi cam. (last person on earth, i think) But, it's twisted around, like a ballarina or something. Like a 90 degree difference from the other foot/leg.
 
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maxwells said:
See, that's just it, she's eating & getting about OK. Not the best, but she does not seem hindered at all. She does not put all her weight on it, it seems. I wish I could get you a photo, but alas, no digi cam. (last person on earth, i think) But, it's twisted around, like a ballarina or something. Like a 90 degree difference from the other foot/leg.
That sounds bad... and painful.
I would pull her, give her some recovery time. Kind of like when you sprain an ankle, rest it. If you first post it sounds like she gets better and then injures it again.
Also what and how often do you supplement? If her leg is broken not dislocated then you may not be giving your frogs enough calcium. But hard to say. You also have the option of stabilizing it, look up skeletal fractures in Amphibian Med. and Captive Husbandry. If you don't have this book. I can send it in a PM. I would contact Dr. Frye about setting it however, but without an x-ray it will be hard to tell.

Hope this helps,
 
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my experience with this

Which limb are we talking about here? I have experience a very similar incedent with several of my azureus. Two of my female azureus had developed an infection in one of their rear legs and would hold it up off of the ground and not use it al all when moving about. Swelling took and despite my efforts to treat it with Baytril and Metranidazole, they both died within weeks after showing said symptoms. I had a necropsy performed on the last frog to exhibit this and it was suggested that liver failure had caused the infection. The cause of the liver damage was assumed to be from vitaminosis from Vit A which was in the supplements I was usign at the time. I switched to Herptivite that instant and never had any occurance of this again.

-Bill J.
 
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Thank you all for the replies. To answer a few questions posed it's her front left leg, and she gets flies dusted w/ rep cal calcium & herptivite daily and has been outwardly healthy until the injury. I mean - she's been an active, fat, healthy little frog until this episode.


I'll pop her into a shoebox to limit her ability to reinjur herself. I'll post if there's any obvious development. Thanks, again.
 
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New update

OK – I moved the female with the injured arm to her hospital shoebox with a few magnolia leaves & a pothos clipping. My reason behind moving her was to limit her ability to re-injure herself.

Now she’s a bit angry it seems, almost depressed. She seems almost lethargic. Might this be positive, she’s not straining herself? Or would it be grounds for seeking medical advise? I am just very fretful over this little gal…

Thoughts?

Thank you for all your assistance!
 
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