Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you didn't know. It's just that the pictures in that tutorial make it soooo easy to see. I have it bookmarked for my own reference.I am aware of the signs for sexing them. The problem I am having is there are mixed signals. The first one has larger toe pads, but has the more angle shaped back. The bottom one has smaller toe pads, but does not have the angled back. Hence body shapes are leaning one way but toe pads seem to indicate the other. So I thought I would ask some pros out there what they thought.