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Bill - I added your images.

I know this was brought up before, but is there a centralized folder in the DB gallery for images? I just linked Bill's directly from photobucket. I have a subfolder for care sheet pics in my gallery for pics I have posted - but I think they should be centralized.
 

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As long as you post them here I will get them in the right place on the server. I am actually putting them in a special caresheet folder in within the site that way we do not lose one if someone would clear a gallery down the road.
 

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Dendrobates imitator:
  • Difficulty: Intermediate – Based on size and speed.
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  • Location & History – Rainforests of northeastern Peru. Discovered by Schulte (1986, 1999). (1,2)
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  • Descriptions & Behavior: Small outgoing to mildly skittish frog. The common name of this species is the mimic poison frog due to their resemblance to other dendrobatids. Three subspecies are recognized:

    Note: These morphs represent unique subpopulations in the wild that share general physical characterisitics, and for that reason different morphs should not be mixed.

    Dendrobates imitator imitator - Aka 'Nominal', 'Green', 'Standard', 'Cainarachi Valley'
    . Display black spots on a metallic green, legs can be metallic green to blue in color with black spots. Generally mimics D. variabilis. This population evidently shows at least two different "types" in the wild with color and pattern variations, both of which have been represented in the hobby for years by different bloodlines. Most recently, INIBICO has brought in 'Cainarachi Valley', likely the same population already in the hobby, with both the "green striped" type (green markings with large blotched patterns) and the "yellow" type (more yellow coloration with finer, rounder spotting on the back). The types are mearly varients in the population and can be interbred.

    Dendrobates imitator imitator 'Tarapota' - Similar in apperence to the green D. i. imitator, 'Tarapota' has orange coloration on the back with blue/green legs. Tarapota imitators are relatively rare in the hobby, and should be considered an advanced frog.

    Dendrobates imitator intermedius - Aka 'Standard'. Originally confused, and thought to be a hybrid between D. fantasticus and D. imitator, by the hobby when first introduced, it is merely one of the many variations of D. imitator. Many times it is still incorrectly labled as it's own species, which it is not. These animals display orange netting or lines on a black background. Legs may be orange/black or contain blue/green markings. The populations in the hobby have a huge amount of variation in coloration and pattern typical of D. imitator from the Huallaga Canyon.

    Dendrobates imitator intermedius 'Banded' - Another recent addition to the US hobby imported from Europe, many of these animals were originally thought to be D. fantasticus until they reproduced, the "Yellow Fantasticus" being actual fantisticus, while much of the "Banded Fantasticus" turned out to be D. i. intermedius 'Banded' (which also explains why the "yellow" name has stuck when the fants are actually orange).

    Dendrobates imitator "yurimenguensis" - Like 'Tarapota', these were imported from Europe into the US hobby in the last couple years. Similar in coloration to the 'Tarapota', these animals generally have a more striped pattern, but may be heavily spotted in some animals to be confused with 'Tarapota'. The animals currently in the hobby do not display as rigid a pattern as the wild 'Yurimaguensis' population, and due to the presence of more than one population of orange imitator in the wild, the "Yuris" in the hobby might not actaully be this population. Due to their rarity, yurimaguensis should be considered an advanced frog.

    Mislabled "imitator":
    "Dendrobates imitator Panguana": At least two of the lowland panguana lamasi types are still called D. imitator in Europe (yellow and orange). This is a bit confusing since there is another lowland panguana lamasi types labled with their correct species. These are all, in fact, members of the species D. lamasi, and their tadpoles show as much, being dark in coloration and showing the bright strip of yellow on the face early in their development, as typical for that species.

    "Dendrobates Uakarii": Another mislabled frog in Europe, but in fact a species in it's own right.
    See http://www.dendrobates.org for more details...

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  • General Care:
    Temperature range of 70-80º F during the day; nighttime temp drop of up to 10º F if possible

    D. imitator can be housed in pairs or in groups (5+). Housing groups in large enclosures may allow for dynamic behavior observations. However, care should be taken as male-male and female-female aggression can occur.

    Vertically oriented enclosures (vertical 10g, 20H) are ideal, but not required. Bromeliads, large-leaved plants, and vines covering the background (such as creeping fig) offer the frogs security as well as sleeping locations.
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  • Breeding & tadpole Care:
    Frogs mature quickly (7-8 months), and males may even begin calling as early as 5 months. Call is very audible, and resembles a cricket chirp. Males will call from laying location to attract female.

    Multiple areas serve as acceptable laying sites for D. imitator including film canisters (black and white) containing water oriented vertically or at a 45 degree angle, bromeliad leaves and axils, vertically oriented leaves (especially overlapping), and even the walls of the vivarium. Tadpoles can be raised by the parents or pulled from the viv.

    Typically 1-3 eggs laid as often as every 5-7 days, but clutch sizes up to 5 eggs have been observed.

    Tadpoles may exhibit cannibalism and should be housed individually. (3) Tadpoles can be fed fish flakes or another mostly protein based diet and detritus (decaying leaves and dead FFs), but it is not recommended to raise tadpoles on a mostly algae based diet. Due to the size of froglets, a readily available supply of springtails is important for young froglets, but stunted and wingless melanogaster will be taken soon after morphing.
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  • Pictures:
    Standard Imitator male transporting tad:

    Standard Imitator tad morphing:

    Standard Imitator froglet:

    Standard Imitator Sex Comparison (Female - Left; Male - Right)

    Standard Intermedius:


    Intermedius Banded:

    Standard Intermedius parental care:

    D. imitator yurimaguensis:



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References:
(1) http://www.poison-frogs.com/
(2) http://research.amnh.org/herpetology/amphibia/index.php
(3) http://www.natures-web.org - Tor Linbo


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Kyle Kopp (kyle1745)
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Bill (elmoisfive)
Oz (rozdaboff)
Sean Harrington(sports_doc)


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Last Updated 7/4/2007
 

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Okay I finally got a better side by side picture of an imi male/female....

So we may want to swap out the photo of the male/female in the care sheet for this one since it shows the body morphology better....not perfect....but I'll work on that one 8)

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I'd like to do a bit of a description update for the imitators... especially with some of the new stuff coming in.

Dendrobates imitator imitator - Aka 'Nominal', 'Green', 'Standard', 'Cainarachi Valley'. Display black spots on a metallic green, legs can be metallic green to blue in color with black spots. Generally mimics D. variabilis. This population evidently shows at least two different "types" in the wild with color and pattern variations, both of which have been represented in the hobby for years by different bloodlines. Most recently, INIBICO has brought in 'Cainarachi Valley', likely the same population already in the hobby, with both the "green striped" type (green markings with large blotched patterns) and the "yellow" type (more yellow coloration with finer, rounder spotting on the back). The types are mearly varients in the population and can be interbred.

Dendrobates imitator imitator 'Tarapota' - Similar in apperence to the green D. i. imitator, 'Tarapota' has orange coloration on the back with blue/green legs. Tarapota imitators are relatively rare in the hobby, and should be considered an advanced frog.

Dendrobates imitator intermedius - Aka 'Standard'. Originally confused, and thought to be a hybrid between D. fantasticus and D. imitator, by the hobby when first introduced, it is merely one of the many variations of D. imitator. Many times it is still incorrectly labled as it's own species, which it is not. These animals display orange netting or lines on a black background. Legs may be orange/black or contain blue/green markings. The populations in the hobby have a huge amount of variation in coloration and pattern typical of D. imitator from the Huallaga Canyon.

Dendrobates imitator intermedius 'Banded' - Another recent addition to the US hobby imported from Europe, many of these animals were originally thought to be D. fantasticus until they reproduced, the "Yellow Fantasticus" being actual fantisticus, while much of the "Banded Fantasticus" turned out to be D. i. intermedius 'Banded' (which also explains why the "yellow" name has stuck when the fants are actually orange).

Dendrobates imitator "yurimenguensis" - Like 'Tarapota', these were imported from Europe into the US hobby in the last couple years. Similar in coloration to the 'Tarapota', these animals generally have a more striped pattern, but may be heavily spotted in some animals to be confused with 'Tarapota'. The animals currently in the hobby do not display as rigid a pattern as the wild 'Yurimaguensis' population, and due to the presence of more than one population of orange imitator in the wild, the "Yuris" in the hobby might not actaully be this population. Due to their rarity, yurimaguensis should be considered an advanced frog.

Mislabled "imitator":

"Dendrobates imitator Panguana": At least two of the lowland panguana lamasi types are still called D. imitator in Europe (yellow and orange). This is a bit confusing since there is another lowland panguana lamasi types labled with their correct species. These are all, in fact, members of the species D. lamasi, and their tadpoles show as much, being dark in coloration and showing the bright strip of yellow on the face early in their development, as typical for that species.

"Dendrobates imitator Uakarii": Another mislabled frog in Europe, but in fact a species in it's own right.


I know I might piss off some people with the yuri comments... but the more I find out about the yuris, and the more I've seen, the less I, and some others, are convinced that they are true yuris.
 

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I thought Uakarii were closer to vents than imitators, or are you just pointing out that they are not imitators? They are there own species correct? If so I can update the species list. If I am not mistaken they are Dendrobates Uakarii correct?
 

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Yes, they are dendrobates uakarii, you can reference dendrobates.org for that info. I was going to put something in about them not even being that closely related... came out saying panguanas were closer related than the mistaken uakarri, but for someone not taxonomy savvy that muddies the panguana debate... ugh... but saying the are more closely related to vents than imitator is probably better than what i tried to say
 

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I think we can make it very clear... "they are not imitators but their own species." :) Maybe even a comment if they were close to another species it would be vents not imitators.
 

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Or we could just put a thing on the bottom that if they wanted to know more about the taxnomy and who is related to who they should just check out the evolution page of dendrobates.org. We just tell it like it is.

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I have the Tarapotos [old line in hobby] in group setting also but I'd need time to get some pics. Also there is a new bloodline from INIBICO that has a bit of a different look, fyi. There banded line is very different in look and deserves some pics...I can get pics if you would like.

Otherwise great guide!

Sorry I didnt see it sooner.

Shawn
 

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I made the description updates and posted them, but I still need to figure out the pictures and with some more of the new imports as well.

If anyone has more pictures of the latest imports that would be great.
 

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I will try to shoot some pics of the INIBICO Taras and Cainarchi (greenish ones) tonight.

I can also get some pics of the true Banded intermedius as well.
 

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Banded Intermedius


INIBICO Cainarchi Imi


INIBICO Gold/Yellow Tara
Male

Female


Not sure how well it comes out in the pics - but these Taras are much more of a golden/yellow color - as opposed to the orange/copper coloration of the older line in the hobby -

 

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I forgot about there being INIBICO taras and old line taras... might want to make descriptions to show this, and explain there are some differences using Oz's comments
 

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I would agree also with Oz that the new and old Tara lines do look distinctly different.

We both have groups from each and you can see a distinct difference from across the room in coloring. Size isnt much different. Breeding and behavior differences I cant yet comment on as the new line is a new arrival (obviously) but the old line a definite challenge :)

S
 
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