I have spent a lot of time researching this topic (off forums) looking for hard evidence here are a few quick links I have found online that I can share. There are actual pictures of farming practices.
Here is an old thread:
Two separate conversations. His was posted in the classifieds. Mine was posted as a means of furthering conversations about the status of this frog farm.
I think there is a reasonable chance that auratus are being bred in decent numbers, but the pumilio were in such a huge density, I think any eggs would be eaten or stomped on.looks pretty good to me.
and isnt that the point? take some wild animals put them in an enclosure and get breeding? i mean we can all guess at whether they are breeding or not, but IMO its just that. a guess.
as far as the set up it looks fairly well thought out, although i think i'd like to see a shipment that big get a little better packaging, they seem to have the basics of the boxes down.
I believe he was asking for information on if the frogs were actually farmed, as opposed to wild collected, and just thrown in elaborate pens. As to skirt exportation lawsActually - it was posted in "Vendor Information". I can't tell what the heck his point is, so I moved it to general.
It looks like he's just parroting an ad he received? He's not trying to sell anything himself.
But yeah - show us some closeups of eggs/tads and maybe we might be more convinced.
First mention of this farm in my russian forums is from 23 dec 2010Similar pictures were post by Marcus while back, but not all exact. When looking at the domain and website properties it looks to be created in January 2011.
There are reports in the literature of high densities of pumilio under certain conditions (like that shown in the photo in Lotter et al). The thing that is suspicious to me is that the pictures can't be blown up by clicking on them.I think there is a reasonable chance that auratus are being bred in decent numbers, but the pumilio were in such a huge density, I think any eggs would be eaten or stomped on.
I should add, that calling it a farm, at least for pumilio is a misnomer. It is just not cost effective to rear these frogs to adult size and sell them for $5-$10 when you can pay pennies to locals to catch them. Sure there will be accidental breeding successes but nothing regular (for pumilio).
Why is that suspicious? That takes an extra programing step and they probably figured the pics were already big enough.There are reports in the literature of high densities of pumilio under certain conditions (like that shown in the photo in Lotter et al). The thing that is suspicious to me is that the pictures can't be blown up by clicking on them.
That was the point why i posted it on Vendor Info & Questions part of the forum.The pictures that I would have liked to able to enlarge to get a good idea of what is going on are those of the tubs and other rearing containers. If they could be enlarged to show what is going on in the tub, it would lend more credulence to the site.
The pictures were taken in a manner that doesn't show detail which would enable a person to make a idea on what is going on.