[brinkerh420]

Just wondering if it's possible to keep a breeding pair and a froglet in the same tank. It is a 40g breeder.
Thanks in advance for any responses
Will

 

[Happy_Frogger]

Just wondering if it's possible to keep a breeding pair and a froglet in the same tank. It is a 40g breeder.
Thanks in advance for any responses
Will

Should be fine as long as their is enough food and places to hide.

 

[epiphytes etc.]

I disagree. I would personally not put a froglet with an established pair, as it will doubtlessly cause stress to the smaller animal.

 

[brinkerh420]

What I am really asking is will a pair of D. Leucomelas breed with a froglet or two in the tank. If there are many hiding spots, will the froglet still be under stress?

 

[Happy_Frogger]

Leucs are a social frog and a 40 breeder is plenty of room for a group of 5 or 6. If you keep just a pair with a few froglets it should be fine IMO. Lots of leaf litter, caves/ hiding spots will be critical though with lots of spring and isopods. Just watch the behavior and if you see aggression pull the froglets out asap. Would hurt to have a grow out tank as a plan B.

Can we see your setup as this will help us too!

 

[brinkerh420]

My photos are too much space to upload.

 

[Happy_Frogger]

My photos are too much space to upload.

upload them to photobucket first and then use the link to the image on here

 

[brinkerh420]

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I need to add some more broms, but that's it.

 

[brinkerh420]

Comments? Anyone?

 

[Zoomie]

I'll take a stab at this.

If it were me, I'd avoid it. Not to say it's right or wrong. It just wouldn't be worth it to me.

1) My Leucs are pigs. Heck, they hop all over each other constantly, leap-frogging for FF. While neither intimidates the other, I can't imagine that a froglet is going to get in there without freaking out the first time one of the adults jumps on his/her head.

2) I want froglets in my care to learn to eat aggressively so they grow up healthy. I don't want any distractions. Nothing in the tank that causes them pause or to hang back when food is available.

I have a group of five Auratus froglets (JV's now) and in spite of being in a bigger tank, I still feed in three different locations just to avoid too many froglets in one place feeding.

3) Your tank looks great but still looks a little thin in terms of hides/plant growth. I would add some creepers and some mid-height growing plants to provide additional hides and visual barriers. Seems like the more that my tanks grow out, the more I see frogs out regularly and without fail.

You haven't really told us why you want to do this. If you're interested in the family aspect of PDFs, I would do some serious research/homeowrk and study Oophaga/Pumilio......or any species that cares for young.

To be clear, not saying that it can't be done. Just not a big fan of anything that could potentially slow growth or inhibit feeding of froglets.

My two cents. Your mileage may vary.

 

[frogface]

Love the moss growth in your tank! I'd dump more leaves on the left side where there isn't moss. That will given them a nice hidey area.

I don't know a lot about Leucs. They are group frogs but I'd still be concerned about a small froglet. How small is the froglet in question? One of those tiny culte ones? If so, maybe make up a nice temp container for him until he's grown a bit.

 

[zBrinks]

Introducing a froglet into a viv with adults - probably not a good idea.

Allowing some tadpoles to morph out in-viv and grow up for a bit with the parents - as long as there are plenty of hides, microfauna, etc, fine most of the time.

 

[Steve88W]

I have allowed a tadpole to morph in tank a few times. I usually pull the baby out if they are too skinny, getting picked on, or after 2-3 months.

I have not seen any aggression from Momma Azureus but I also keep her well fed and offer a different feeding area for baby.