[Dan Baron]

Hi everyone,
I keep Ranitomeya variabilis ‘Southern’ and have been considering graduating to Oophaga in the future. Will the cemetery Bastimentos take Melanogaster fruit flies once past the 2 months OOTW mark? Also apart from breeding and the males being territorial are they the same difficulty to keep as Ranitomeya? Is a 18X18X24 suitable for a pair?

 

[TrumantheOwl]

I can’t answer the froglets transistion to melanogaster beacuse my trio’s first batch of healthy froglets are only just coming out of water. But I find that my pumilio are not much harder than my ranitomeyas. My variabilis “Southerns” care far less about my interference than my Pumilio do, but when they are out and breeding or caring for tads my Pumilio are just as bold as the Variabilis.
An 18x18x24 scaped correctly is generally considered to be adequate for a pair of O. Pumilio.


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[JasonE]

Bastis aren't one of the smaller pumilio. They'll be taking dusted flies within a couple weeks, if not right away. Just keep clay springtail cultures so you can dust your springtails while the offspring are young.

 

[Broseph]

Cemetery Bastis are the only pumilio I keep, and they start taking apterous melanogaster pretty quickly. And I think 18x18x24 would be just fine for a pair.

I think a healthy, well supplemented mother lays nutritious eggs for developing tads. And those tads morph out into froglets that are just fine eating springtails for a couple weeks. In fact, I no longer add springtails to the parents' vivarium. But I keep them on a clay substrate with tons of leaf litter, and usually have bait stations or chunks of Repashy Bug Burger to feed the microfauna population.

 

[JasonE]

Is a 18X18X24 suitable for a pair?

I missed this. Go bigger if you can. A 24x18" footprint would be better suited for pumilio. 36" tall would be even better.

 

[Dan Baron]

I missed this. Go bigger if you can. A 24x18" footprint would be better suited for pumilio. 36" tall would be even better.

Thanks for the reply!

 

[Dan Baron]

I can’t answer the froglets transistion to melanogaster beacuse my trio’s first batch of healthy froglets are only just coming out of water. But I find that my pumilio are not much harder than my ranitomeyas. My variabilis “Southerns” care far less about my interference than my Pumilio do, but when they are out and breeding or caring for tads my Pumilio are just as bold as the Variabilis.
An 18x18x24 scaped correctly is generally considered to be adequate for a pair of Oophaga p

I can’t answer the froglets transistion to melanogaster beacuse my trio’s first batch of healthy froglets are only just coming out of water. But I find that my pumilio are not much harder than my ranitomeyas. My variabilis “Southerns” care far less about my interference than my Pumilio do, but when they are out and breeding or caring for tads my Pumilio are just as bold as the Variabilis.
An 18x18x24 scaped correctly is generally considered to be adequate for a pair of O. Pumilio.


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thank you, your response to my question was very helpful . From research they don’t seem much harder than Ranitomeya !

 

[Dan Baron]

Cemetery Bastis are the only pumilio I keep, and they start taking apterous melanogaster pretty quickly. And I think 18x18x24 would be just fine for a pair.

I think a healthy, well supplemented mother lays nutritious eggs for developing tads. And those tads morph out into froglets that are just fine eating springtails for a couple weeks. In fact, I no longer add springtails to the parents' vivarium. But I keep them on a clay substrate with tons of leaf litter, and usually have bait stations or chunks of Repashy Bug Burger to feed the microfauna population.

Excellent thank you so much ! Really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience with me

 

[npaull]

I missed this. Go bigger if you can. A 24x18" footprint would be better suited for pumilio. 36" tall would be even better.

I like big tanks. Bigger tanks are harder to scape, but way easier to plant and look better in the long run.

But I simply refuse to believe, especially without any explanation, that increasing a tank dimension by 6" has any significant improvement on the well-being of the frogs whatsoever.

 

[Dr. Manhattan]

Odd question but why is this "locale/variant" have cemetery in its name ? I've seen this before but never had the chance to ask.

 

[bulbophyllum]

Odd question but why is this "locale/variant" have cemetery in its name ?

I assume because the frogs were found in the cemetery on Bastimentos.