[Sh0e]

Hey guys, i just joined this site, i'm thinking of setting up a small dart frog tank sometime in august, i have a spare 20 gal tall that i plan to set up with a water fall and the whole foam and silicone deal. i have already had some "beginner dart suggestions, but i would love some more opinions. because it is a 20 gall tall, would some more aboreal species be good? preferably i'd like the PDFs to be arround 1-1.5" as adults. color doesn't really concern me too much, i enjoy setting up these tanks as much as watching the frogs and i havn't seen a PDF that i thought was ugly. I am not new to frogs, I currently have 2 Red Eyed Tree Frogs, and a Pacman frog, and i've reared tadpoles 3 times with alot of success. i'd like to keep the price under $65 per frog (not including shipping) something relatively hardy. I plan to begin setting up the tank in august and letting it settle out for at least a month prior to introducing frogs to it. so what would be some wise choices and how many would fit comfortably in a 20 gal tall tank?

thanks!

 

[mydumname]

Some leucs would do well in that tank. They are relatively cheap and easy to come by. They like height and ground space plus they breed and live well in groups.

 

[Sh0e]

the leucos are pretty cool, here are some others suggested to me, what do you guys think?

Dendrobates leucomelas
Dendrobates azureus
Dendrobates tinctorius
Dendrobates auratus
Dendrobates galactonotus
Phyllobates terribilis
Phyllobates bicolor

 

[mydumname]

Tincs and azureus in pairs only. The other ones can live in groups and do fairly well. I guess it is now up to what you like the best, what you can afford, and what is available (all are easy to come by though).

 

[Sh0e]

i like the tincs and azurs but the pairs need to be equal male/female ratio correct? i'm leaning more towards leucos right now though the auratas are very nice looking as well. with these frogs would you do 10 gal/frog?

 

[Guest]

ya either equal ratio or less females as the females are the aggresive ones, still might be a problem though unless its a rather larger tank...30g+ ?

 

[Sh0e]

well i have a 20 gal tall right now, but i wouldn't be against getting something larger, or using the 120 gall that's currently empty, but that's such a huge project and i am still in college so my living situation changes from time to time and from school to summer so moving such a large enclosure would be difficult. how many leucos would fit in a 20 tall? how many would fit if i got a 20 long or 30 gal tank? thanks again~

 

[Sh0e]

could i put 4 leucos in a 20 gal?

 

[ManofMusic]

I have 4 leucs in a 20 long right now...they seem to be doing great, but I certainly wouldn't put more than that in one.

 

[Sh0e]

i'm pretty sure that i'm going to stick with just a sexed pair, now i have a question and i feel like an idiot asking, are there any compatible species? this is merely a curiosity, personally i very strongly advise against mixing of any kind, but, i am new to darts and i have heard some things to suggest some can be kept together, but i wanted to know if this was true or not, simply because i have always disagreed with mixing, but i don't want to be wrong.

 

[Dunner97074]

Do a search and you'll find waaaaay too many threads on this topic. I won't even begin to start another, just do a search, it's a topic that comes up twice a month.

Mike

 

[Sh0e]

lol, alright, i always forget those search buttons

 

[Sh0e]

mmmm. . .so it would be safe to say i was right? mixing really only leads to unnecessary problems?