[DCgecko]

Getting these pretties this Friday! So excited!
Their ability to mimic their distant cousin is simply incredible!

 

[Vagabond324]

wow, very cool, must keep us informed how they do for you.

 

[konton]

Nice! Those guys look great!

Jae

 

[DCgecko]

sure will do!

wow, very cool, must keep us informed how they do for you.

 

[DCgecko]

actually your pictures convinced me to get some

Nice! Those guys look great!

Jae

 

[Dizzle21]

Awesome are these going to be your first thumbs? I know how exciting it is, I have some thumbs coming from understory on wed.

 

[ExoticPocket]

Ugh.. I have to wait till Wednesday to get mine. Beautiful frogs, btw!!!

Alex

 

[B-NICE]

I need a trio of those guys. I'm looking to have most of my collections be thumbs.

 

[DCgecko]

Awesome are these going to be your first thumbs? I know how exciting it is, I have some thumbs coming from understory on wed.

yes, my first thumbs and my first dart frogs ever! I'm actually also waiting for a Wed shipment from our friend in the north

Ugh.. I have to wait till Wednesday to get mine. Beautiful frogs, btw!!!

Alex

Thanks! Yes, next Wed seems never will come... that's why I bought these thumbs to control the over-bred ffs.

I need a trio of those guys. I'm looking to have most of my collections be thumbs.

you realize that they are not summersi, don't you?

 

[yours]

You just can NOT go wrong with R. imitator, any of their morphs! I think a pipe dream of mine would be to line up imitator tanks, side-by-side w/ the frog they're mimicking(i.e. R. variabilis, R. summersi, R. fantastica, etc etc)---now THAT would be COOL! *grin*

Congratulations, you won't be disappointed in these guys

 

[Pumilo]

I have both. I got 5 Understory "Sauce" Summersi just before Christmas, and we brought home 3 young Phil Tan line banded Imitator on Sunday. Amazing how similar they look! We're going to have to be careful taking photo's that we don't mix them up!

 

[DCgecko]

You just can NOT go wrong with R. imitator, any of their morphs! I think a pipe dream of mine would be to line up imitator tanks, side-by-side w/ the frog they're mimicking(i.e. R. variabilis, R. summersi, R. fantastica, etc etc)---now THAT would be COOL! *grin*

Congratulations, you won't be disappointed in these guys

I will just collect the cheaper ones for now...

I have both. I got 5 Understory "Sauce" Summersi just before Christmas, and we brought home 3 young Phil Tan line banded Imitator on Sunday. Amazing how similar they look! We're going to have to be careful taking photo's that we don't mix them up!

Is it generally true that summersi have the orange eyebrow and black blotch posterior to their eyes?
Pictures borrowed from Brad Wilson, DVM's flickr account.

 

[DCgecko]

 

[yours]

Beautiful brom, even better looking IMI!!!!

 

[Pumilo]

Is it generally true that summersi have the orange eyebrow and black blotch posterior to their eyes?

Looks like all my Summersi have eyebrows. Here are a few Summersi shots.

 

[Pumilo]

Here are some Banded Imitator shots.

 

[Pumilo]

BUT, Here is one of the Banded Imitators who has the orange eyebrows, too.

 

[DCgecko]

Beautiful brom, even better looking IMI!!!!

Thanks! I know the picture sucks... will take better pictures when I get a new 7D

 

[DCgecko]

Looks like all my Summersi have eyebrows. Here are a few Summersi shots.

I only asked Phil to pick those ones without "eyebrow", which looks much cooler imo. Not sure if the "eyebrow" is a reliable trait to distinguish them, but here is a quotation from the article by Brown et. al.

"Ranitomeya summersi is considered a Müllerian mimic of some sympatric populations of R. imitator (Symula et al., 2001 applying the name Dendrobates fantasticus) and can be distinguished from these populations by its soft ‘buzz’ call, audible from less than 1 m (vs. loud ‘trill’ call, audible from greater than 5 m in R. imitator). In our experience, the black eye-mask of R. imitator usually does not cover the tympanum, and the black head spot of R. imitator is ovoid, whereas the head spot in R. summersi is pentagonal in shape. Ranitomeya summersi usually has paired black gular spots, rarely present in R. imitator."

so I guess here is the list:
1. size, larger summersi
2. call, louder imitator
3. black mark posterior to the eye, larger summersi
4. black head spot: ovoid v. pentagonal
5. paired black gular spots in summersi

 

[Erikb3113]

He does not have the spots next to his eyes though pumilo....got the eyebrows down though....nearly a master of disguise.