NO, and its just not the fear of producing hybrids. Mixing can lead to the spreading of parasites and such from one group to the other as well as chytrid.
I don't understand why the fact that they are both males would somehow stop the spreading of parasites or chytrid.They are both males.
I don't understand why the fact that they are both males would somehow stop the spreading of parasites or chytrid.
I think that most of the time, with someone new to the hobby, when they get two frogs of the same species, they are going to have been raised together. They are going to purchase them from the same source. Why would they want to pay for shipping twice in order to get them from 2 different bloodlines? Especially if they are not interested in breeding. So generally, putting two frogs of the same species together will mean that they were raised together. But putting two frogs from different species together pretty much assures that you are grouping frogs that were NOT raised together. i.e. different pathogens and parasites.First let me be clear that I do not support mixing. However, logic must prevail when someone asks why. Would there not be the same risk with putting two frogs of the same species/morph from different vivs together? Any two darts frogs that did not grow up together could exchange parasites or diseases. There is no greater risk of this, that I am aware of, between species that between two Green Sips or two Leucs, etc.
If I was new to the hobby and was given that as the sole reason not to put two males of different species together, then I'd be confused. As I understand it, a logical reason not to mix, even if it is safe for the frogs and no breeding will occur, is that it can confuse others new to the hobby into thinking it's ok when they come to your house and see the viv. Most people automatically think of it in terms of a fish tank. That is why zoos that display darts in mixed tanks do not help the hobby IMHO.
I'll tell you what, instead of taking your frustrations out on me, for being a general waste of matter, why not just answer the question?If I have to explain this in too much depth it will make you look dumb
Ahh, see, my pointy-headed friend, you specifically raised this issue in relation to mixing frogs, not simply the introduction of new individuals to an already existing group. Hence my question about this being any different than what one would need to deal with, when introducing new frogs, of a similar typeso hows this.......If you have a group of frogs raised together they are already all likely infected with the same parasite, coccidia, chytrid or whatever.
Again, you specifically raised the issue in relation to mixing, not the general introduction of new individuals. And still haven't outlined why it would be any more of a concern, besides stating "I said so"Funny, but it still stands as a bigger risk. When you add a frog to an existing viv without testing it you are risking your frogs health. And this gos for adding new frogs of the same species as well. Its not just mixing, its adding a new group of frogs to an Existing one.
There is also talk of stress with introducing new frogs to existing vivs. That said it doesnt fair well for ones already infected. and to add to it would make it worse.
That said testing and proper quarentine is the only way to deal with it.
clearly, it's almost as if I was under the impression that this was a discussion forum, and trying to flesh out a topic. But clearly having a crush on you makes more sense...Monkey you seem to have a crush on me or something.
what are you even talking about?Lets end this bicker style flirting your doing and walk away. I proved out my thoughts on the 10 gallon issues you hit me with as CO2 being the killer to the idea 10's are just as good as larger vivs.. Im not trying to keep on with it. Im just offering help to someone who asked.
No, you originally raised it in relation to mixing, and still have not explained how it actually represents some unique danger in those circumstancesI said it gos for both. Its the basic introduction of new frogs to a viv. The only risk I could see as mixing would for a toxin, parasite or something not common to one species natural habitat being introduced to another as many frogs here go untested and most are imported.. Again I havent had it happen but its more than possible.
clearly a loss for us all...I wont repost here in this thread.