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I've been looking around and can't really find any real detailed info on the catch location on black foot Terribilis. I'm not proposing mixing, but I'm curious are BF's in a completely different location? Or is this just a natural variation?
 

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I believe they never gave the location info because they- tesoros- didnt want that info getting to smugglers. The black foots have only been in the hobby a few years whereas the original oranges have been in the hobby for many, many moons.

They are certainly different enough to keep separated.
 

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I didn't think about that. Good point

Do they deal with the regular orange as well?
 

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Tesoros has only released the yellow black foot and orange black foot that I have seen... but dont quote me on that, as I have been in and out of the hobby for years and may have missed a shipment.
 

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Tesoros has only released the yellow black foot and orange black foot that I have seen... but dont quote me on that, as I have been in and out of the hobby for years and may have missed a shipment.
Can anyone let me know what the difference between the yellow blackfoot and the orange black foot terribilis?

Are they from the same population?

Are they noticeably different?

Anyone out there work with both?
 

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Can't find the thread right now, but wasn't there a thread recently that said that the black foots were the result of line breeding? Maybe I am misremembering.

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Yes that is was what said in an article from natural geographic (i think) that they quotes tesos saying that.
 

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Can't find the thread right now, but wasn't there a thread recently that said that the black foots were the result of line breeding? Maybe I am misremembering.

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Yes that is was what said in an article from natural geographic (i think) that they quotes tesos saying that.
The Nat Geo article did mention that, but didn't say whether they were from the same population or not. If they are from the same population they ought to be bred together. If from separate populations they should be kept separate. Just wanted to see if anyone knew any more than what was mentioned in that article. I emailed Tesoros for an answer but in the meantime, was hoping someone else had maybe inquired about this before myself.
 

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The Nat Geo article did mention that, but didn't say whether they were from the same population or not. If they are from the same population they ought to be bred together. If from separate populations they should be kept separate. Just wanted to see if anyone knew any more than what was mentioned in that article. I emailed Tesoros for an answer but in the meantime, was hoping someone else had maybe inquired about this before myself.
Michael, did you ever hear back from Tesoros?
 

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I just got this yesterday.I got it for free for some reason. Is this black foot terribilis? https://i.imgur.com/Mi8LvMe.jpg


This is a yellow or orange terribilis that didn’t do a complete colour change. It will look like this when big.
It is like the Blackfoot but just a bit more black. Having 2 adults with this colour doesn’t result always in the same colour. 80 % is the same colour and 20% normal yellow or orange.
If a yellow doesn’t change colour he is like this

I wasn’t able to breed with this colour yet.


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Beautifull animals!

I used too have a couple terribilis that had a grey patern on their back.

Male :



Male and female :

 

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I (heard) there is no such thing as a true Yellow blackfoot terribilis. That it was just orange blackfoots that appeared more yellow and were sold as yellow blackfoot terribilis. Only the orange blackfoot is a true morph.
 

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I (heard) there is no such thing as a true Yellow blackfoot terribilis. That it was just orange blackfoots that appeared more yellow and were sold as yellow blackfoot terribilis. Only the orange blackfoot is a true morph.


Not even the Blackfoot is a true morph. Only a colour selection.
It can be that different location have more with black feet than others but it is an orange or a yellow that accidentally has black feet. It can be that out of a Blackfoot pair you end op with normal orange and the other way around


Even the orange in the hobby are often yellow selections where they give carotene supplements and extra uv to build up the colour. If you stop to give the supplement they slowly go back to yellow.


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Arr there more colors than orange, mint and yellow? I was told there used too be blue terribilis in the hobby.
 

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Arr there more colors than orange, mint and yellow? I was told there used too be blue terribilis in the hobby.


The blue is also a selection in the mints.
More Blue/green, more yellow and complete white.
I now have 6 colours.(mint,orange,yellow,yellow Blackfoot,orange Blackfoot and Black) It is possible that I the future I will make 3 groups of mint to have a the 3 colours
But in reality there are only 3 colours.
Mint,orange and yellow.
All the others are colour selections in the hobby or from different locations in the wild.
There we only use colours and not places for terribilis I think it is hard to separate them in the hobby by location or population.
To late for this I think.



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The blue is also a selection in the mints.
More Blue/green, more yellow and complete white.
I now have 6 colours.(mint,orange,yellow,yellow Blackfoot,orange Blackfoot and Black) It is possible that I the future I will make 3 groups of mint to have a the 3 colours
But in reality there are only 3 colours.
Mint,orange and yellow.
All the others are colour selections in the hobby or from different locations in the wild.
There we only use colours and not places for terribilis I think it is hard to separate them in the hobby by location or population.
To late for this I think.



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Would you find these frogs as for example, "blue terribilis" or is this a color that occured from animals bred in someones collection? I am a bit suspicious of color morphs that cannot be connected a wild population or locale because of the potential of line breeding and hybridization.
 
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