Klean-strip green odorless mineral spirits?

CREEPlNG_DEATH · Apr 4, 2012

Maybe I posted this in the wrong section last time so im re-posting it here.

So has anyone tried klean-strip green odorless mineral spirits?
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Description:
Odorless Mineral Spirits
Klean-Strip® Green™ Odorless Mineral Spirits is made with 65% more renewable resources and has 65% lower fumes than traditional mineral spirits. It has a unique, patent-pending formula containing Odorless Mineral Spirits and has 65% lower VOCs than regular mineral spirits. It contains no Hazardous Air Pollutants** and no ozone depleting chemicals.*Neither this product nor any of its ingredients are considered to be flammable liquids by the Consumer Products Safety Commission. **Hazardous Air Pollutants as defined by the EPA.

I can't find toleune or xylene anywhere and this seems to be a better alternative, I am not sure if it would leave any sulfur residue or not. Any info on this would be greatly appreciated as I have a lot of vines I would like to get covered soon and it has to be done indoors.

Thank's Matt

CREEPlNG_DEATH · Apr 4, 2012

Anyone have any info, or a possible alternative to toleune or xylene?

CREEPlNG_DEATH · Apr 5, 2012

Nobody at all? I haven't seen anyone mention this product and I have spent hours searching the forums trying to find an answer but nothing. I know ED mentioned you could possibly use artist grade mineral spirits, and I have seen many others use it but I really want to make sure this won't harm my frogs or not. You know I really thought if I asked for some advice that someone would be willing to help but I guess not.

Matt

jacobi · Apr 5, 2012

Or the people who have read your post don't know... Give it a few days.

Jake

CREEPlNG_DEATH · Apr 8, 2012

Well I picked some of the The Klean-strip green odorless mineral spirits its also non flammable which is a plus, but I am still not sure about using it. Has anyone else had any problems with using the regular mineral spirits which is flamable?

Matt

CREEPlNG_DEATH · Apr 9, 2012

Bump!!! Anyone?

EvilLost · Apr 9, 2012

I would contact the manufacturer and ask about the specific residues left behind.

also, post a link to an MSDS sheet for some more "real" info might help

Ricordia · Apr 9, 2012

Why do you feel you need to thin the silicone?

CREEPlNG_DEATH · Apr 9, 2012

Thank's EvilLost. I plan on contacting them tomorrow and as soon as I get to a computer I will post the MSDS sheet, right now im using my ps3 so im not sure how to do it from here.

Matt

CREEPlNG_DEATH · Apr 9, 2012

Ricordia said:
Why do you feel you need to thin the silicone?

I made alot of rope vines and it would take forever to cover that many by hand not to mention having to do multiple touch ups.

Pumilo · Apr 9, 2012

Here is your MSDS. http://www.rockler.com/tech/RTD20000145AA.pdf

Why does it have to be done indoors? According to the MSDS, even though it is oderless, the fumes are still quite hazardous.

CREEPlNG_DEATH · Apr 9, 2012

Pumilo said:
Here is your MSDS. http://www.rockler.com/tech/RTD20000145AA.pdf

Why does it have to be done indoors? According to the MSDS, even though it is oderless, the fumes are still quite hazardous.

Thank's Pumilo. Recently it has been real windy here if we get a break on the wind it will be done outside if not it will be done in my garage either way I will be wearing a mask. What do you think about using the product? Do you think it would be safe?

Thank's again Matt

Pumilo · Apr 9, 2012

Honestly I'm not qualified to answer. I can't make heads or tails out of all that. Except that a simple mask would not be enough. You would need a full on respirator.

Pumilo · Apr 9, 2012

I haven't tried this, but I've thought about it. What if you put a latex glove on, filled your hand with a BIG glop of silicone, and pulled your rope/vine through it with your silicone filled hand gradually closing around it as you draw it through?

CREEPlNG_DEATH · Apr 9, 2012

Hey Pumilo, I think you posted the wrong one. Here is the sheet for the
"green" version of the odorless mineral spirits:http://www.wmbarr.com/ProductFiles/1691.7D%20KS%20Green%20OMS%20Substitute.pdf. Let me know what you think please. Do you think this would be safe for me to use?

Matt

Pumilo · Apr 9, 2012

I still can't comment on if it's safe or not when it evaporates. But look near the top in the green box #3 Hazards Identification. Breathing too much can cause convulsions, long term neurological and physiological damage and even death. A mask will only keep out particles, not fumes. You need to be in a very well ventilated area.

CREEPlNG_DEATH · Apr 9, 2012

Pumilo said:
I still can't comment on if it's safe or not when it evaporates. But look near the top in the green box #3 Hazards Identification. Breathing too much can cause convulsions, long term neurological and physiological damage and even death. A mask will only keep out particles, not fumes. You need to be in a very well ventilated area.

When I said mask I meant respirator.

EvilLost · Apr 9, 2012

I am not qualified to give an answer either, but I would say probably not. I do not know enough about VOC contents to say if the 32% VOC is meaningful, but under the Ecological concerns....

In slow water-flows, a film may form over the water causing asphyxiation. Don't know if this will be a problem, but even if not, it still has "compotents" that are potentially toxic to fresh/salt ecosystems...

Look under SECTION 12 of the MSDS...

"TOXICITY: This mixture contains components that are potentially toxic to freshwater and saltwater ecosystems.
This material may be harmful to aquatic organisms and may cause long term adverse effects in the aquatic
environment. In stagnant or slow-flowing waterways, a hydrocarbon layer can cover a large surface area. As a
result, this covering layer might limit or eliminate natural atmospheric oxygen transport into the water. With time,
if not removed, oxygen depletion in the waterway might be enough to cause a fish kill or create an anaerobic
environment. This coating can also be harmful or fatal to plankton, algae, aquatic life, and water birds."

Pumilo · Apr 9, 2012

EvilLost said:
I am not qualified to give an answer either, but I would say probably not. I do not know enough about VOC contents to say if the 32% VOC is meaningful, but under the Ecological concerns....

In slow water-flows, a film may form over the water causing asphyxiation. Don't know if this will be a problem, but even if not, it still has "compotents" that are potentially toxic to fresh/salt ecosystems...

Look under SECTION 12 of the MSDS...

"TOXICITY: This mixture contains components that are potentially toxic to freshwater and saltwater ecosystems.
This material may be harmful to aquatic organisms and may cause long term adverse effects in the aquatic
environment. In stagnant or slow-flowing waterways, a hydrocarbon layer can cover a large surface area. As a
result, this covering layer might limit or eliminate natural atmospheric oxygen transport into the water. With time,
if not removed, oxygen depletion in the waterway might be enough to cause a fish kill or create an anaerobic
environment. This coating can also be harmful or fatal to plankton, algae, aquatic life, and water birds."

Yes, that's a good point. If it evaporates 100% it seems like that really wouldn't be an issue.

CREEPlNG_DEATH · Apr 9, 2012

Thank's guys. I think I have found a place that sell gambin mineral spirits which is suppose to evaporate 100%, so im gonna head over tomorrow and see if they actually carry it.

Thank's again for the help everyone.

Matt

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