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My humidity in my 20long viv. Is hovering around 85% and the temp between 74-77

Is this acceptable for dendrobates tinc. Citronella?

Still growing the viv. Out so it will be a while
 

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General assumption: If you see condensation on the glass and it's a nearly sealed tank then it's safe to say humidity is close to 100%. I don't monitor humidity... It's mostly temps and you can buy a temp gun if you have multiple tanks
 

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General assumption: If you see condensation on the glass and it's a nearly sealed tank then it's safe to say humidity is close to 100%. I don't monitor humidity... It's mostly temps and you can buy a temp gun if you have multiple tanks
Just a side note - condensation on the glass is not a sign of proper humidity - that just means there is a decent temperature/humidity difference between the conditions inside the vivarium, and those of the room it is in.
 

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If you are getting an accurate reading than your humidity is fine. I actually haven`t measured my humidity in years. I give my tanks a good misting once or twice a day.
Keep in mind they don`t need to be dripping wet all the time.
Once your tank grows out fully and it`s properly sealed on top, not completely, a little air flow is fine you should be ok.
If the tank looks dry, give it a spray.

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If the temp and humidity are accurate that fine but if you dont have digital temp and humidity displays I would invest
 

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If the temp and humidity are accurate that fine but if you dont have digital temp and humidity displays I would invest
I wouldn't invest in humidity sensors, but again, all my tanks have glass tops......if you have a glass top, no vents, humidity shouldn't be an issue, because there's no where for the water to escape to.
 

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Just a side note - condensation on the glass is not a sign of proper humidity - that just means there is a decent temperature/humidity difference between the conditions inside the vivarium, and those of the room it is in.
Not quite. Condensation forms when temperatures fall below the dew-point. The dew point is a function of three things. Temperature, Humidity, and pressure (It is safe to assume pressure inside and outside the tank are equal so we can remove this from the calculation).

Condensation forms on the glass walls of tank because the temperature has fallen below the dewpoint. The temps in our tanks are typically in the 70's. For condensation to form the humidity in the tanks need to be fairly high (at least 60-70%, if not greater). No matter what the temperature gradient is between the inside and outside of the tank, if there is a deficient volume of water vapor in the tank you will not get condensation.
 

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Completely disagree. A total waste of money. Look at Johns post. They call him enlightened rouge for a reason.
Agree and disagree...with humidity, you're spot on. Just use common sense. Keep most or all of the lid covered, mist daily, but not enough to saturate substrate or flood false bottom completely. If the frogs are sitting in mud, it's too wet. If they keep sitting in the water feature/bowl, it's too dry.

With temps, a decent digital temp gun is worth it's weight in gold.
 

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Well my enclosure does have a glass top. It's just the standard glass top for a 20gallon long with the plastic attached to the back to prevent escapes... I'm assuming is is okay?

The temp is fine for sure... 85% is what it consistently reads...

I don't mist daily... Don't have to... It is staying very damp with it enclosed and low heat LED lighting.
 

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If you wanna stop the escapeing flies all you have to do is place a small cup with apple cyder vinegar on the lid or the light and they will attract to it and drown
 

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That kind of top will have gaps for fruit flies to escape. I actually by glass cut to fit so there are no gaps, but some people don't mind sharing their house with fruit flies.

How do the fruit flies escape if the fruit flies fed are the flightless ones? Something I've been wondering...
 

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They may not be able to fly, but they can crawl and if there`s an opening they usually find it.
I actually cut way down on my escapees since I stopped using Hydei.
I find that as soon as the Hydei hit the substrate they head straight for the top,sometimes before my frogs can get them.

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