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So I picked up a couple of the the coconut half shell hides at good old petco well I was picking up silicone.

After looking at them more closely, I feel like they are HUGE. In my limited reptile experience and limited research, I have found that most reptiles want a hide that is very snug. For my uro, it seems the tighter the spot, the more he likes it.

Do dendros exhibit this "attitude"?
If so do you guys find that the coco huts have a little too much headroom?

I'm thinking of going another direction, both to conserve tank space and to provide tighter hide spots. Any recommendations on hides other than coco huts?
 

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Nah typical cocohuts like what you are describing are fine. Mine pile in there 3 or 4 at a time. Also film canisters are good.
 

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I great stuffed a flower pot into my background. You can use flower pots on the ground. You probably got that Hermit Crab hut.
A possibility, but I don't see a flower pot providing a tighter hide than the hut. The pot's I do have are, in fact, taller than than the coco hut so it's actually moving in the wrong direction.
 

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Nah typical cocohuts like what you are describing are fine. Mine pile in there 3 or 4 at a time. Also film canisters are good.
This is interesting. I would expect the frogs would prefer their own hides. Do your frogs have other options? Do they prefer to utilize the same hide or do find they spend most of their time in the same hide? This is one of the reasons I am leaning towards tighter hides. It is my thought that they will feel more secure if they do not have to worry about uninvited bunk buddies.

I have read about the film canisters, although they are typically refereed to while discussing egg deposition, which is not a concern of mine. The canister would certainly be a tighter fit and perhaps my bet option.

Aesthetically, I would prefer something else.

Thoughts?
 

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The Hermit Crab Hut is way bigger than the coco hut. They have small clay flower pots at home depot. You can also look for some log like wood.
A guess on the bottom diameter of a coco hut vs. hermit crab hut?

As far as I know a coco hut, is a coco hut, though I am sure they come in different sizes.
 

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The only ones who really piile are my baby azureus.. and have other hiding places. My cobalts will go in there in pairs (they are soon to start breeding). For the most part most of my frogs are out and dont need hides. Even my thumbs.
 

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Coco huts are fine and many frogs like to use them for breeding in. I like to also give them smaller options. Sometimes mine will all cram into the same film canister. In the morning, it's like a frog clown car as they all spill out :D
 

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In the hobby cocohuts are used more for breeding than hides (although frogs will utilize them as "hides"). Over the last few years most people have incorporated large amounts of leaf litter to their tank to simulate "natural" hiding spots for the frogs. Keep in mind the more hiding spots you have the more bold your frogs will be as they know they can hide readily.
 

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In the hobby cocohuts are used more for breeding than hides (although frogs will utilize them as "hides"). Over the last few years most people have incorporated large amounts of leaf litter to their tank to simulate "natural" hiding spots for the frogs. Keep in mind the more hiding spots you have the more bold your frogs will be as they know they can hide readily.
Ahh..

This is what I was looking for. I should have posed the question, "what is their most natural place to hide?"

I have more leaf litter than I know what to do with..
Good to know this will provide them with a secure habitat.

It doesn't sound like they are as attached to a specific "home" like my reptiles tend to be,

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Josh and some others beat me to it. Cocohuts are not the typical resting hides used by the frogs. If you go in and look for them after the lights have been shut off for awhile, you probably wouldn't fiind them under the cocohuts. They would be down in leaf axils, or between leaves or other tighter areas (like film canisters), in those cases they are seeking out the areas that they comfortable with and some of them are high contact, in other cases the frogs perch out on a leaf from which they will jump if the leaf is disturbed (predator avoidence). The huts are more typically used by those frogs that breed down in the leaf litter or other hidden areas close to the ground if they are provided with a petri dish or in some cases a petri dish with a leaf on it.


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It doesn't sound like they are as attached to a specific "home" like my reptiles tend to be,

Thanks.

Actually if you look for them after the lights are out, you will see that many of them do return to the same site with some surprising consistency once they are well adjusted to the tank.

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Josh and some others beat me to it. Cocohuts are not the typical resting hides used by the frogs. If you go in and look for them after the lights have been shut off for awhile, you probably wouldn't find them under the cocohuts. They would be down in leaf axils, or between leaves or other tighter areas (like film canisters), in those cases they are seeking out the areas that they comfortable with and some of them are high contact, in other cases the frogs perch out on a leaf from which they will jump if the leaf is disturbed (predator avoidance). The huts are more typically used by those frogs that breed down in the leaf litter or other hidden areas close to the ground if they are provided with a petri dish or in some cases a petri dish with a leaf on it.


Ed

This makes perfect sense.

I knew those huts were to big for comfort. I may use one(prolly not), but will concentrate more on the leaf litter and plants the frogs will feel secure with. This allows more floor space and better aesthetics IMO.

Thanks guys.
 

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I agree with Ed. LOTS of my frogs always sleep in the same hiding spot, not mater where it is, they usually always return to the same spot the next night.
 

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Based off my experience with reptiles, this behavior is what I would expect. This was actually the driving force behind my question as I wanted to provide a good "home" for each frog in the viv.

I did not want to place two or three huts in it to accomplish this task
 

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Leaf litter and tree roots. I started out with coco huts and moss, like many others, then got switched onto leaf litter and tree roots (red moor root wood usually) (coco huts just in there for breeding really) and even my supposedly shy ameerega bassieri Sisa are VERY bold. Oh and the deeper the better for the leaf litter. It looks nicer too I reckon.

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I have a trio of Mint Terribilis who when I provided a couple of film canisters bred and layed eggs in them, all three frogs piled on each other with 1 head and pair of front legs hanging out, It reminded me of the little car with 50 Clowns getting out. It was strange to watch.
 

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Depending on type and gender, it's not super unusual to see PDFs pile together in a hide.

Also, tt's been my experience that even when I "build in" hides, frogs will find spots to hide that I never considered. You probably already have more hides in your vivarium than you think.
 
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