jbeetle said:They aren't imported anymore, aren't very legal, and are a manditory eggfeeder... thus making reproduction slow (like pumilio). They are out there, but because of all of this they are hard to come by. It seems you need to have something of equal value and rarity to even find out who is working with them. Also, another problem is that people don't have pairs... so you can't get young from all females or all males, thus no new ones. If you do manage to come across some be ready to pay a lot of money for them... probably will make retics and pumilio look cheap lol.