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I want to put some thumbnails in an 18” x 18” x 24” Zoo Med. I am concerned about frogs/froglets escaping from the gaps on the front doors. I attached pictures-the gap is between 1/32” and 1/16”. Is this large enough for a thumbnail froglet to fit through? I prefer not to silicone the gap - I’m OK with flies escaping - but I will if I have to.

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Depends on the kind of frogs - it's probably ok for most, but some thumbs can squeeze through some very small openings.

What is your issue with siliconing? Another suggestion would be to try a small bulb seal or a seal strip. Even FF escapees can get quite annoying over time...
 

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I just checked the gap on the one ZooMed that I have -- just a smidge under 1/16" (pretty poor build quality on these). Eyeballing that gap on mine, I'm not the least bit concerned about escapes of any parent-raised thumbnail, or any thumb froglet that you might purchase (that is, at a sellable size).

Using a ZooMed for a growout for new morphs of, say, reticulata might be a bad idea, but I'm sure that's not what you're going to be doing in there.

I agree that applying a bead of silicone would be easy and eliminate any worry at all. :)
 

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If you are worried about the silicone looking odd - use painters tape and an (old / expired) credit card or membership card. Cut a little square off one side (used to guide it along an edge for that straight bead) and then a small groove for the bead. Painters tape to cover any areas where silicone is not supposed to go.

Then off to the races - happy to share pics of my card library if helpful / that gives you an idea.
 

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Thanks for the replies, all. eMCray sure, I’d like to see those pics. I just don’t like the look of siliconed doors that I’ve seen. Socratic, why would it be a bad idea for a growout of reticulata?
 

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Thanks for the replies, all. eMCray sure, I’d like to see those pics. I just don’t like the look of siliconed doors that I’ve seen. Socratic, why would it be a bad idea for a growout of reticulata?
The froglets are really small!

I would say the same for my growout of Ameerega pepperi. Despite being pretty large frogs the froglets are REALLY small. Smaller than my Ranitomeya sirensis and Ranitomeya uakarii froglets.
 

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You can also buy that velcro sticky stuff, and just apply the soft side (it has a sticky backing) along the edges.

I wouldn't worry about froglets escaping. Even if they could fit (which they can't), they don't venture far from home when they are so small.
 

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Thanks for the replies, all. eMCray sure, I’d like to see those pics. I just don’t like the look of siliconed doors that I’ve seen. Socratic, why would it be a bad idea for a growout of reticulata?
Here you go; this is how I silicone my doors. They are sliding doors, so I need something to fill the gap. You can use clearer acrylic than mine if you so choose and make the line thinner.
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For your doors (they look like hinged vs. sliding) I was suggesting to put some silicon directly here onto the edges that are already green-colored.
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Thanks!

No , sorry. How did you get that nice clear strip of silicone?
With the same tools as everyone else - and just use a super clear silicone. I haven't found any that are aquarium safe persay, but given the frogs are not touching this part / there is not that much, it should be ok if you let it vent out for a few days / week.

Thickness of the bead is also a key factor in how clear it will be.

There are a couple of products out there - here are ones I've used:
 

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I used some clear air tubing for aquarium air pumps. I just split it and cut to length of the door. Worked like a charm.
 
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