Im not thinking about getting some or anything, but i was wondering what the difference in care for WC vs CB darts? What precautions should be taken, etc?
I would say in the best case scenario, one would be taking care of them the exact same way. Quarantining, testing, treating, etc.
The links tclipse puts above are, of course, great places to start.
Poison Beauties also makes a great point that most frogs bought, and sold, have yet to be appropriately quarantined. Nor have many ever had their fecals done, or been treated appropriately.
Lately I've come to realize there's more liars in the hobby as well, so don't take someone's word on it either!! The foot work should be done by yourself, or should be considered yet to be done at all. Unless undeniable proof is shown to prove their level of care, or they come from one of the few very trusted names in the hobby, consider starting at square 1 the most appropriate course of action. Quarantine, text, treat, etc.
Probably always the best course of action.
It's also understandable not every one can afford to pay for fecals, meds, etc. always right when they should be done. If that's the case, I would still recommend to definitely quarantine. After a basic QT period is over, understand whatever tank the frogs are being kept in one day may need to be chunked, if, when testing does become affordable, there are signs of some kind of nasties. If during that time period where their true health is unknown they generate offspring, and one decides to part with said offspring, it's only right to inform the buyer/receiver of the frogs what has or has not taken place.
If the frogs didn't come together, it's recommended to not put them together till one knows their status for sure. No matter how anxious for eggs one might be. If someone does put a pair not received together with one another anyways, before testing & treating(if necessary) has been done, please tell anyone receiving the offspring!
Pardon if I've rambled on....
Thanks, Ed! I had visited that post a while ago, but have yet to venture through it recently, and gave it another read.There is a change in the attitude of a number of the vets on the cutting edge of amphibian husbandry about treating frogs when ever a fecal is positive. A lot of it can be seen in this post by Dr. Wright (one of the authors/editors of Amphibian Medicine and Captive Husbandry) located here http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/ge...regular-treatment-parasites-4.html#post298624
I've seen the threads, the writes and talked to the vets and heard the Dr.s Convo with a few froggers. This is what gets me, I understand the need to not push unneeded treatments as well as the risks of overuse and causing them to become less effective but I have sent in hundreds of fecals over the years and not once have I had one pop positive and treatment not be recommended. This was from numerous amphibian qualified vets including Dr. Wright. Has anyone had a vet yet tell them their frogs are positive for hookworms, lungworms, tapeworms, and that treatment isnt needed?There is a change in the attitude of a number of the vets on the cutting edge of amphibian husbandry about treating frogs when ever a fecal is positive. A lot of it can be seen in this post by Dr. Wright (one of the authors/editors of Amphibian Medicine and Captive Husbandry) located here http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/ge...regular-treatment-parasites-4.html#post298624
When working at the Zoo, I've had the vets not treat frogs with a positive fecal. As for the comment about vets always recommending treatments, how many of those vets were also able to look at the frog to make a determination on the overall health of the frog versus a mailed fecal or a fecal run without the vet seeing the frog? If they don't have the animal in hand to examine, then you should expect the most conservative recommendation which would be to treat the frog for the parasites. This is one of the reasons, it can be important to cultivate a local vet.Has anyone had a vet yet tell them their frogs are positive for hookworms, lungworms, tapeworms, and that treatment isnt needed?
Again, it depends on the "parasite" see above. A frog can be positive multiple times and not be treated depending on the number of worms seen in the fecals (protozoa are also very very commonly seen in very fresh fecals and are typically not treated unless they are super abundent in the fecal (and these can usually only be seen in very fresh fecals).This is why I made sure to not mention treatments in my OP as its the one thing still debated to the death. I do see an issue with someone whos frogs continuously pop positive and treatment being held off due to bad husbandry and sterile practices but this usually means, breaking down the viv, sterilizing it and starting over while the frog is requarantined.
Again, this depends on the parasite found in the fecal. A number of the parasites do not have a life cycle that would allow them to reinfect the frogs (example most tape worms as they require a host to ingest the eggs before being ingested by the frogs).Make sure you qt and test your frogs before they go in that viv you worked so hard to set up. Once its infected you can treat your frogs regularly and it wont help.