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Doubt you could get away with that in the U.S.
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If it will make them a dollar, people will do just about anything.
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I wanna see what BS people will do for a Klondike bar!!!! I know what I'd do :)
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fishman9809
epiphytes etc. said:
It's the same mentality that drives the demand for all designer animals.
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The fact that the term "designed animals" even exists is outrageous.
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suztor
At the top of that link, did you see the poor little Brazilian turtles in key chains? I find that even more horrifying! Neutrients in the water to live a couple months in the key Chain, because its a good luck charm?! Kinda makes me sick! they have no respect for the lives of the animals, they are just objects not living beings to them.

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Brian317
hmm, that is sad people will dye their animals in my opinion. Dont they have this kind of stuff for dogs/cats too? Where they can dye their fur pink? It is absolutely absurd...
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Brian317 said:
hmm, that is sad people will dye their animals in my opinion. Dont they have this kind of stuff for dogs/cats too? Where they can dye their fur pink? It is absolutely absurd...
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You know what else is absurd is the fact that there are people out there that truly believe there should be absolutely no interaction between human and animal on any level. It's not like we are from another planet. We have evolved with animal interaction in our blood. But as this thread shows, some people take the interaction to a disgusting level.
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rsain
Pumilo said:
Oh crap, called out on my Pink Floyd morph before I ever made a sale! ;)
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I thought you were working on these?


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Pumilo
No, Sid Barret has that market locked down. They definitely inspired my "The Wall" varaderos, though. ;)
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the Dregs
fishman9809 said:
The fact that the term "designed animals" even exists is outrageous.
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Humans have designed tons of animals. All the food we eat (vegetables too), our pets, hunting animals and so on have been genetically engineered by us.

Not that dyeing is a good thing at all, but designing animals is a very good thing.
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Pumilo
the Dregs said:
Humans have designed tons of animals. All the food we eat (vegetables too), our pets, hunting animals and so on have been genetically engineered by us.

Not that dyeing is a good thing at all, but designing animals is a very good thing.
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To a certain point, I'll agree with this. I think your dog curled up at your feet, or the cat on your lap would agree. We just need to know where to draw the line. Obviously, I am not really working a Pink Floyd dyed line of albino Varaderos. Sorry Zookeeper Doug!
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motydesign
Pumilo said:
. Obviously, I am not really working a Pink Floyd dyed line of albino Varaderos. Sorry Zookeeper Doug!
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my dreams have been shattered:(
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daryl34
We do it here all the time. Fish are dyed all the time. Why because people buy them.
Daryl

Greed is the motive.
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fishman9809
the Dregs said:
Humans have designed tons of animals. All the food we eat (vegetables too), our pets, hunting animals and so on have been genetically engineered by us.

Not that dyeing is a good thing at all, but designing animals is a very good thing.
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I meant to say "designer" and I was referring to the harming of animals to become said "designer" animals. Of course selective breeding is a good thing.
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suztor said:
At the top of that link, did you see the poor little Brazilian turtles in key chains? I find that even more horrifying! Neutrients in the water to live a couple months in the key Chain, because its a good luck charm?! Kinda makes me sick! they have no respect for the lives of the animals, they are just objects not living beings to them.

::eek:utraged::
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I can remember when people were wearing platform shoes that were clear and had goldfish in them.. or clear plastic ties with fish in them.. and it was only about ten years ago, I saw a band where the lead guitar's body was clear plexiglass with fish swimming around in it...

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Ed said:
I can remember when people were wearing platform shoes that were clear and had goldfish in them.. or clear plastic ties with fish in them.. and it was only about ten years ago, I saw a band where the lead guitar's body was clear plexiglass with fish swimming around in it...

Ed
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Ed, I was trying to picture that, then I went back an re-read it. Lead guitar's body...not lead guitarist's body. Now I get it.
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Pumilo said:
Ed, I was trying to picture that, then I went back an re-read it. Lead guitar's body...not lead guitarist's body. Now I get it.
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Punctuation can be very important....

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hydrophyte
I really hate all those "balloon" strain fish. Balloon mollies (already awful) have been around for a few years, but in the last couple of years they have also started to release balloon tetras, balloon guoramis and balloon rams. They are hideous. They just look like fish ready to die sick with dropsy.
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the Dregs
fishman9809 said:
I meant to say "designer" and I was referring to the harming of animals to become said "designer" animals. Of course selective breeding is a good thing.
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Selective breeding usually harms animals in some way. In fact, I am trying to come up with an animal that is better off from selective breeding. By this I mean, an animal that would be better off if let back into the wild in its new state. Look at pugs and English bulldogs. Wracked with health problems. Most dog breeds have serious congenital defects that must be dealt with by breeders. Look at what we do to our fruit flies! Sheep are so dumb that they can't survive in the wild at all anymore.

The only animals that I can think of that are better off being messed with by us are populations that were bred to be reintroduced in the wild where they were previously extinct. Of course the initial extinction is almost invariable our doing.

Please don't think I am advocating dyeing fish. I am just saying that we humans are basically jerks to the animal world for our own benefit. So, dyeing fish is bad, true, but we're all guilty of messing up animals.
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the Dregs said:
Selective breeding usually harms animals in some way. In fact, I am trying to come up with an animal that is better off from selective breeding. By this I mean, an animal that would be better off if let back into the wild in its new state. Look at pugs and English bulldogs. Wracked with health problems. Most dog breeds have serious congenital defects that must be dealt with by breeders. Look at what we do to our fruit flies! Sheep are so dumb that they can't survive in the wild at all anymore.
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If you look at the issue as to the benefit of the individual versus being able to survive in the wild then dogs are not better off but if you look at it from the benefit to the overall genetic background then dogs and cats have hugely benefited from the selective breeding (look at how many dogs there are versus how many wolves..).. But domestic cats are an example of an animal that overall has benefitted from selective breeding as many of the types of cats do not have a lot of genetic issues....

the Dregs said:
The only animals that I can think of that are better off being messed with by us are populations that were bred to be reintroduced in the wild where they were previously extinct.
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Actually they really haven't benefited since they typically have lost a huge portion of thier gene pool, have to deal with adaptation to captivity causing issues for the reintroduced populations.... The population still survives but it is not the same healthy population prior to the extinction event....

Some comments,

Ed
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Ed said:
Actually they really haven't benefited since they typically have lost a huge portion of thier gene pool, have to deal with adaptation to captivity causing issues for the reintroduced populations.... The population still survives but it is not the same healthy population prior to the extinction event....

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Ed
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I don't think he means that they are better off than they were prior to the extinction event, but rather that since we screwed up and have brought them to the edge of extinction, they are better off now that we are belatedly trying to manage the population we have left.
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