Albino/Hypo Banded Intermedius Tad?

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Tuckinrim8

Discussion Starter · Dec 10, 2011

I was feeding Tads and noticed this little guy looked a bit odd. I have morphed my fair share of froglets and have never seen any like this.. Ill be honest, there have been times in the past where I have had "lighter" colored tads and I have gotten excited only to have them morph normally so maybe I am jumping the gun! Any thoughts?

Here is another banded tad that is close in size from the same group for reference.

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whitethumb

· #21 · Jan 10, 2012

that is freaking sweet!

Pumilo

· #22 · Jan 10, 2012

Phantom, huh? I suppose as long as you don't start singing opera!

eyeviper

· #23 · Jan 10, 2012

Awesome! stoked to see how he does.

zcasc

· #24 · Jan 10, 2012

That sucker is gorgeous! I'll be interested to see how he turns out...

BethInAK

· #25 · Jan 10, 2012

wow, he's really, really cool!!

Brian317

· #26 · Jan 10, 2012

that is so cool ! I'll be keeping an eye on this thread for sure !

Tuckinrim8

Discussion Starter · #27 · Jan 11, 2012

Thanks everyone! I will keep the updates coming, but after speaking with a couple other froggers who have run into albino tads, I am a bit pessimistic about him morphing out completely. Apparently its fairly common for them to develop to the point of metamorphosis, and then die just before coming out of the water. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed with this guy but i'm already prepping myself for the sad day when I have to say goodbye.. Phantom and I have been through a lot and its just really sad that his fate may already be written. Ever since he was little I could tell there was something special about him, it seems all to often the good die too damn young.. (slowly shakes head with hand over face)

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Tuckinrim8

Discussion Starter · #28 · Jan 11, 2012

markpulawski said:
Chris what are your Banded's preferred laying spots, film can, glass, leaves etc?
other please feel free to throw your spots in as well.

Mark I stand corrected. I guess it doesn't mater if your black or white! haha First clutch in a white film can!

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Tuckinrim8

Discussion Starter · #29 · Jan 11, 2012

Pumilo said:
Phantom, huh? I suppose as long as you don't start singing opera!

Doug, opera is a dying form of art. Don't Judge... hah

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InnoEcto

· #30 · Jan 31, 2012

Any updates? We just started getting albino tads from our bandeds also. Our first is a little younger than your Phantom, and we just found our second albino. I think we must have bothe received our breeders from the same source.

Tuckinrim8

Discussion Starter · #31 · Feb 2, 2012

InnoEcto said:
Any updates? We just started getting albino tads from our bandeds also. Our first is a little younger than your Phantom, and we just found our second albino. I think we must have bothe received our breeders from the same source.

Hey guys, The little guy passed away last week. He appeared to have a buoyancy problem that got progressively worse as he developed all the way to the point where he could no longer go down and eat. I tried lowering the volume of water but it didn't help. I have another tad from the same group that is completely clear but has pigment in his eyes unlike "phantom" so I think this one can actually see. I am thinking "phantom" was completely blind so even if he would have made it to metamorphosis, hunting would have been impossible. I picked up my breeders from a buddy in Northern California, you?

Chris

DemonicalEnvy

· #32 · Feb 2, 2012

That sucks hopefully you have better luck with some of the others. Good Luck

-Marty

bratyboy2

· #33 · Feb 2, 2012

I know in goldfish that if they are having problems like that you should feed them peas....maybe try that....sometimes you have to force them though

Shinosuke

· #34 · Feb 2, 2012

I'm very sorry to hear it.

InnoEcto

· #35 · Feb 3, 2012

We're sorry to hear about him. We're waiting for our older one to share Phantom's fate. Our older tad is having the same problem. It seems that he is not eating much, and his intestines are filled with gas. This is causing him to float belly up. We tried shallow water also, with no luck. He has good days and bad days. We don't expect him to make it. It is kind of strange, that they both had the same problem. It must be linked to the albinism, somehow. I guess we'll both be watching our younger tads, with crossed fingers.
We got the parents of these guys from a breeder in Wyoming.
Anyway, here are our two. You can see the older one has little food in his gut, and lots of gas instead.
We hope to hear about your new guy's progress.
We'll keep you updated on ours too.

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Azurel

· #36 · Feb 3, 2012

Sad to hear about the tad.....He was very cool looking.....

Chris what line is your Banded intermedius? I have a pair that I am waiting to get going and interested if yours is from the same line and these albino tads might be something to watch out for....Mine are Phil Tan line....

bratyboy2

· #37 · Feb 3, 2012

Are any of you trying the blanched peas?

Tuckinrim8

Discussion Starter · #38 · Feb 3, 2012

bratyboy2 said:
I know in goldfish that if they are having problems like that you should feed them peas....maybe try that....sometimes you have to force them though

Hmm, never heard of it.. Not sure if the Tad would be interested in peas but I may give it a whirl next time around! Anything is worth a shot, although I am not sure how you would force feed a Tadpole.. lol

InnoEcto said:
We're sorry to hear about him. We're waiting for our older one to share Phantom's fate. Our older tad is having the same problem. It seems that he is not eating much, and his intestines are filled with gas. This is causing him to float belly up. We tried shallow water also, with no luck. He has good days and bad days. We don't expect him to make it. It is kind of strange, that they both had the same problem. It must be linked to the albinism, somehow. I guess we'll both be watching our younger tads, with crossed fingers.
We got the parents of these guys from a breeder in Wyoming.
Anyway, here are our two. You can see the older one has little food in his gut, and lots of gas instead.
We hope to hear about your new guy's progress.
We'll keep you updated on ours too.

Awesome shots guys, thanks for sharing! Feel free to keep us updated here on their progress! I'll snap some pictures of my new one but he is far smaller than the two you pictured. On a happy note, I've got four healthy and normal looking froglets bouncing around from my group!

Azurel said:
Sad to hear about the tad.....He was very cool looking.....

Chris what line is your Banded intermedius? I have a pair that I am waiting to get going and interested if yours is from the same line and these albino tads might be something to watch out for....Mine are Phil Tan line....

Mine are also Phil Tan line. Good luck with your pair, they are awesome frogs and seem to breed pretty readily!

Chris

InnoEcto

· #39 · Feb 3, 2012

We're trying to offer the blanched peas. We'll see how it works.

Baltimore Bryan

· #40 · Feb 4, 2012

I've also read that you can try not feeding for a few days and give large water changes to deal with the gas/floating problem. I guess the theory behind it is that not feeding them prevents further gas formation, and the clean water makes it easier to relieve the pressure. I've tried it with a couple tads I caught floating early on and they eventually healed and did fine, not sure if it was from that technique or something else.
Good luck,
Bryan

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