Albino/Hypo Banded Intermedius Tad?

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Tuckinrim8

Discussion Starter · Dec 10, 2011

I was feeding Tads and noticed this little guy looked a bit odd. I have morphed my fair share of froglets and have never seen any like this.. Ill be honest, there have been times in the past where I have had "lighter" colored tads and I have gotten excited only to have them morph normally so maybe I am jumping the gun! Any thoughts?

Here is another banded tad that is close in size from the same group for reference.

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Tuckinrim8

Discussion Starter · #4 · Dec 10, 2011

frogface said:
Interesting. He's like a phantom tad. Keep us updated with pics, please.

I shall call him "Phantom"

I will keep you updated for sure... I am borrowing my buddy's macro lense so I am hoping I wont get the call that he wants it back til this one morphs out!

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Tuckinrim8

Discussion Starter · #5 · Dec 10, 2011

Pumilo said:
I've never seen one that light Chris. Good luck!

Thanks Doug! The only "problem" is, if he morphs out special it adds yet another viv to my ZOO because you know ill have to keep him! ha

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Tuckinrim8

Discussion Starter · #10 · Dec 13, 2011

billschwinn said:
In an effort to help my fellow frogger I can make space here for him so you don't have to.

Good man Bill, good man!

Pumilo said:
Beat me to it Bill, I was going to say I could home him while he built a nice viv and then when he was ready for me to ship him...well you know how iffy Colorado's weather can be.

Or let me guess, fed Ex conveniently lost the package right?

wasatchtrops said:
I knew there was I good reason for dropping off my spare flavovittatus with you.... You can even come over and look at 'phantom' whenever you want

Gabe, I should have known you had ulterior motives when you brought those guys over! Haha

markpulawski said:
Chris what are your Banded's preferred laying spots, film can, glass, leaves etc?
other please feel free to throw your spots in as well.

Hey Mark, my group lays in black film cans that are almost horizontal. They avoid the white film cans all together and seem to have no preference as to what height the cans are stuck to the glass.

Chris

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Tuckinrim8

Discussion Starter · #12 · Dec 13, 2011

Here is a pic of "Phantom" as of this morning..

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Discussion Starter · #14 · Dec 20, 2011

motydesign said:
cool looking tad Chris, i need to swing by and come check him out... and maybe peak at some other frogs and put my name on a list

Hey Brian, you are welcome to come by any time! I need to come check out your collection as well! Its gonna be a bit nuts this week but lets plan on next!

Here is an updated shot as of a minute ago, he's getting big and still staying white!

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Tuckinrim8

Discussion Starter · #16 · Dec 29, 2011

Arpeggio said:
The nerves in its spine/brain look crazy! I hope it lives.

Me too!

Here is some shots from today, on the belly shot you can see its legs starting to develop!

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Tuckinrim8

Discussion Starter · #17 · Jan 10, 2012

We have toes! Phantom now has pretty good sized back legs and if you look close you can see his front legs have now developed toes too! His eyes are starting to rise and he's looking a bit more like a froglet!

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Discussion Starter · #27 · Jan 11, 2012

Thanks everyone! I will keep the updates coming, but after speaking with a couple other froggers who have run into albino tads, I am a bit pessimistic about him morphing out completely. Apparently its fairly common for them to develop to the point of metamorphosis, and then die just before coming out of the water. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed with this guy but i'm already prepping myself for the sad day when I have to say goodbye.. Phantom and I have been through a lot and its just really sad that his fate may already be written. Ever since he was little I could tell there was something special about him, it seems all to often the good die too damn young.. (slowly shakes head with hand over face)

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Discussion Starter · #28 · Jan 11, 2012

markpulawski said:
Chris what are your Banded's preferred laying spots, film can, glass, leaves etc?
other please feel free to throw your spots in as well.

Mark I stand corrected. I guess it doesn't mater if your black or white! haha First clutch in a white film can!

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Discussion Starter · #29 · Jan 11, 2012

Pumilo said:
Phantom, huh? I suppose as long as you don't start singing opera!

Doug, opera is a dying form of art. Don't Judge... hah

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Discussion Starter · #31 · Feb 2, 2012

InnoEcto said:
Any updates? We just started getting albino tads from our bandeds also. Our first is a little younger than your Phantom, and we just found our second albino. I think we must have bothe received our breeders from the same source.

Hey guys, The little guy passed away last week. He appeared to have a buoyancy problem that got progressively worse as he developed all the way to the point where he could no longer go down and eat. I tried lowering the volume of water but it didn't help. I have another tad from the same group that is completely clear but has pigment in his eyes unlike "phantom" so I think this one can actually see. I am thinking "phantom" was completely blind so even if he would have made it to metamorphosis, hunting would have been impossible. I picked up my breeders from a buddy in Northern California, you?

Chris

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Discussion Starter · #38 · Feb 3, 2012

bratyboy2 said:
I know in goldfish that if they are having problems like that you should feed them peas....maybe try that....sometimes you have to force them though

Hmm, never heard of it.. Not sure if the Tad would be interested in peas but I may give it a whirl next time around! Anything is worth a shot, although I am not sure how you would force feed a Tadpole.. lol

InnoEcto said:
We're sorry to hear about him. We're waiting for our older one to share Phantom's fate. Our older tad is having the same problem. It seems that he is not eating much, and his intestines are filled with gas. This is causing him to float belly up. We tried shallow water also, with no luck. He has good days and bad days. We don't expect him to make it. It is kind of strange, that they both had the same problem. It must be linked to the albinism, somehow. I guess we'll both be watching our younger tads, with crossed fingers.
We got the parents of these guys from a breeder in Wyoming.
Anyway, here are our two. You can see the older one has little food in his gut, and lots of gas instead.
We hope to hear about your new guy's progress.
We'll keep you updated on ours too.

Awesome shots guys, thanks for sharing! Feel free to keep us updated here on their progress! I'll snap some pictures of my new one but he is far smaller than the two you pictured. On a happy note, I've got four healthy and normal looking froglets bouncing around from my group!

Azurel said:
Sad to hear about the tad.....He was very cool looking.....

Chris what line is your Banded intermedius? I have a pair that I am waiting to get going and interested if yours is from the same line and these albino tads might be something to watch out for....Mine are Phil Tan line....

Mine are also Phil Tan line. Good luck with your pair, they are awesome frogs and seem to breed pretty readily!

Chris

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