[sebou203]

hi,
i have some tanks with mantellas (nigricans, laevigata, ebanaui and pulchra) and all the air circulation technique i tryed seem to make the frog really shy... normally, without air circulation (and lots of fog on glass...), they are always really active jumping and climbing everywhere. But when i use any kind of air circulation, they become really shy, and they disapear for weeks under moss, driftwood, or plants... :S

All my tanks are really similar: 20 gal, with 100% glass top, around 90-100% humidity, with water feature , lots hidding area and moss.

I tried:
-1x 40mm cpu fan, rated 10-15 cfm (depend on speed controller), 26 db, internally mounted as this one: http://www.leonardobenitez.com/tropical-exotics/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/internalAirCirc2.jpg
The front glass was clear as wanted, but.. the frog were always hidden, so i removed the fan

-1x 70mm cpu fan, rated 20 cfm, 25db, externally mounted as this one : http://bbrock.frognet.org/images/vent-fan.jpg
all the glass were clear, but the mantellas disapeared ... until i removed the system

-Uncovered 1/3 of the front glass... But humidity dropped to 60-75%, and the front glass was only half clear... :s So i covered the top again...


Now i just stopped trying to remove the fog on the glass, because the mantellas dont seems to like the air circulation :s

I was thinking about trying some anti-fog wax, but i was a bit nervous about all the chemicals it contain...

I also tought it could be interesting to heat gently the front window with really small heat cord... but i dont want the temperature to raise too much in the tank...


honestly, im about to give up, and stay with fog for ever XD
Do you have any solutions i didnt tried yet?

 

[jbherpin]

I would let it fog naturally. Once in a while just wipe the front with a paper towel. The fogging of the glass, obviously makes the mantellas feel more secure. Nothing wrong with that.

JBear

 

[sebou203]

this is what im doing...
all my others thanks have an air circulation system, except those for mantellas.
I just keep wiping the front window with paper towel...
And i think it will stay this way for a long time (until i discover a miraculous solution XD)
-seb-

 

[bobrez]

You might try a small quiet fan, that only blows lightly. Its funny with my tinks i put loud strong fans in, and they are very curious and jump on them right away to see whats gong on lol

 

[daggekko]

Curious to know what kind of tops people are using as well. I just replaced my M. aurantiaca screen top with a solid glass lid and so far the males have stopped calling so much. Well, a slight bit, but they are still calling. I guess more to the people that are breeding them(and I would like to know if you treat all species the same) do you use screen top, solid glass, or mostly glass with a little screen?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Baltimore Bryan]

My lids are mostly glass with some ventilation. When I mist heavily to simulate the wet season, the humidity rises and the males call nonstop. They call less and are out less when it's cooler and drier, like when they are in the "dry season" cycling stage in my experience.
Bryan

 

[repking26]

Your in luck!! You can now save paper towels and money and get to see your mantellas all you want!! How you ask? Well you will have to read and watch what GRIMM posted and thank him a bunch!

http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/parts-construction/73467-clean-glass-forever.html