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i am wanting to get a pair of azureus and have been trying to learn as much about them as i can. i have found so much info here with out haveing to ask any ? but i havent seen anything about how much they call. i have kept a few aquatic frogs, and some tree frogs i found in my backyard but nothing that calls. will azureus make much noise, i kind of want something that will call, but nothing to loud.
 

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Well, you should enjoy azureus then. You really have to listen closely to hear their call. Its a pain though because it often takes a while for you to realize that they are actually calling. They pretty much sound like a cell phone on vibrate. Throw this in a tank, and its barely audible. They usually only call during the initial courtship of the female. Once they are established breeding the males don't seem to call often.
 

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Well, you should enjoy azureus then. You really have to listen closely to hear their call. Its a pain though because it often takes a while for you to realize that they are actually calling. They pretty much sound like a cell phone on vibrate. Throw this in a tank, and its barely audible. They usually only call during the initial courtship of the female. Once they are established breeding the males don't seem to call often.
I completely agree with Kevin here. Especially the part about established pairs. I had some pairs that almost never called... that is until I placed two pairs together in a 29gal.


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what about how they use their space. do they like more surface area or more climbing area. i was looking at a 28g bow front and a 30g hex, the hex is a lot taller but the 28 has more floor space, which do you think would be better? and can i put venis fly traps in it?
 

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If you want a beginner dart that calls audibly and would do well in either a 30 hex or 28 bowfront, D. leucomelas may be a good answer. Azureus are very nice, too. I don't think you can go wrong either way . . . but the 28 bowfront is definitely what you want for the azureus.
 

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holiday said:
what about how they use their space. do they like more surface area or more climbing area. i was looking at a 28g bow front and a 30g hex, the hex is a lot taller but the 28 has more floor space, which do you think would be better? and can i put venis fly traps in it?
If you're looking for azureus, then go with the bowfront. More floor space. And no, you can't put venus flytraps in it, for one they need a dormancy period every year, and two the frogs stomping all over them will kill them by constantly setting off the traps. If you want carnivorous plants, go for pitchers of the genus Nepenthes, or butterworts.
 
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thanks for the answers. i have to say that this is the fist time i have ever posted a queston on a message board without someone givin a smart a$$ answer. or just replying with a "use the search." thanks a lot.
 

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I have my froglets in a 10 gallon tank, and they go all over the place. I've seen one in particular that likes to hang out on the orchid blooms which are the highest points of the tank (you can check out my gallery, I have a good pic of it). I would say that 70% of the time they are in the lower parts of the tank, and 30% of the time they are up high.
 

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breeding azureus

Hello all, I am looking in to getting some azureus. I have read a lot about them, But i would like to ask those of you that know a lot, or have breed them what would be better. SHould I buy 3-4 young, unrelated froglets, then after they mature, and if they form a pair, remove the extra two frogs supposing that the pair is a male/female pair. and then leave them to do their business, or would it be just as fine as introducing just 2 frogs to each other, and they should form a pair??? I haven't been able to find a straight forward awnser aobut this. Some people say to let them form pairs, and some say they are not to picky with their mates. I just don't have enought dart experience to say. ANyway, thanks in advance all you experts.

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Not to descriminate against mantellas, theyre very cool frogs, but hiding and breeding will never be a problem w/ azureus. I have tincs (tincs and azureus are practically the same for most purposes) and in my experience they are not picky at all about mates. Sometimes breeders carry already paired up frogs, this will save you time if your goal was to breed them but it will cost you. I like the thought of buying a couple youngsters and, if possible, coming out with a female and 2 males (1 male would be just as effective). Or keep them all and build a colony in a large tank w/ 2 females and maybe 5 males...of course this is a little extreme, but if you decide you like them it would make a nice display/breeding tank.

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I have both azureus adn a variety of mantella species (NOT TOGETHER). I know alot of people complain that the mantellas hide alot, but I have found that the way their tank is set up affects the visibility of the frogs. When I had them in sparsly planted quarentine tanks, they tended to bury partially in the substrate or hide under moss. Not that they have been moved to large (35-45 gallon) tanks I see them all of the time. My M. viridis are the most visible, but I see my aurantica and baroni pretty frequently as well (especially in the morning). The tanks are all HEAVILY planted, as in the plants are on the verge of crowding eachother out, and have natural rock waterfalls. I used large driftowwd pieces and rocks to create ledges for them. They especially like to dart in and out of the rock crevices in the waterfall.

The azureus are definaetly more visible, but they tend to stay in one area and beg for food all day, while the matellas are moving qaround different areas more. It all depends on what you find interesting. It is alot easier to find a fat bright blue frog, than a tiny greenish-brown one.
 
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It's the Azureus' visibility that makes them better for begginers (and people who like action.) Few people who first get into frogs have the patience to wait for a tiny frog to come out once a day then go back into hiding, and quickly lose interest. The bueaty of these frogs is you don't have to arrange the tank in any certain way, they will be out 12 hours a day. My tincs do beg, but actually do move around ALOT, it's their interactive behavior that make them such fascinating pets.

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Mantella hiding

I have quite the colony of mantella's, let see, I have 8 viridis, 7 goldens, 5 laevigata, 1 pulchra, 1 madagascariensis, and 2 crocea. The viridis are definitely the most "hidden" species, but they do come out quite often. My males will usually come out of their bromeliads, and call, while the females only hide when they see me around the tank. The others are very active frogs, especially the goldens, and the laevigata's. I definitely agree that their terrarium has to do with their hiding habits. If you have them too crowded, they will be stressed out, and hide a lot, or if you don't have it set up very well, they might hide. So, just keep these things in mind when dealing with mantella's, because I have seen no reason to classify any of them as "hard to see frogs".

As for the d. azureus, does anyone know any good breeders. I emailed some people that have had them available in the classifieds here, but no one will email me back, so, I'd prefer to find a good breeder that will answer me. Also, if you have any tips on setting up their vivarium, I would appreciate that too. I am probably going to give them a 20 gallon size, for 2 to 3 frogs. THanks again,

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