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I'm creating a 20 long vertical tank. It'll have about 6 bromeliads and a lot of vines. What frogs do you think I can pop in hear? I was thinking a pair of imitators? The substrate will be ABG mix and the background will be clay.
 

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The size and orientation sounds good for a pair of imitators. 20 gallon long verts don't have a lot of depth, though, it kind of limits the wood/hardscaping/plants you can put in a tank....
 

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The size and orientation sounds good for a pair of imitators. 20 gallon long verts don't have a lot of depth, though, it kind of limits the wood/hardscaping/plants you can put in a tank....
Actually, the depth I think is a bit more than a 10 gallon, so about 12-16 inches. Since i'm using clay background, that saves alot of space.
 

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16 is a 20h so your thinken about 10-12 at most. I wonder how this is going to turn out.

Do have an idea what frog you want? Imitator? Vent? Variabilis (sp.)?
 

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16 is a 20h so your thinken about 10-12 at most. I wonder how this is going to turn out.

Do have an idea what frog you want? Imitator? Vent? Variabilis (sp.)?
I'm thinking a pair of imitators, or maybe a trio. Not sure how that would turn out though. I made the false bottom, mixed up my "special" frog substrate, and hooked up the lighting. I'll be ordering the conversion kit within the next week. I still need to do more planning and think of the background design too. Any ideas were to get the conversion kit cheap? The only place that sold 20L vertical kits was AAAFrogs and it was 30$, and with shipping and tax, 45$ which seemed steep. I'm wondering if I could make one, but I have NO idea where to get hinges for glass or how to make the vent. I'll post pics soon, my friends borrowing my good camera. He'll be back in about another half an hour or so.
 

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I feel your pain on the vert kits. I just shelled out $$$ on 2 @10gal and [email protected] ouuuch.. anyway, i figure these days my time is worth the money - its a plug n play solution. At least I got the tanks at approx 50% off.

fyi - I put my order in last week and still hasnt shipped so you might consider that in your build schedule. From what Iv read AAA makes good products so i think it will be worth the wait.

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I'm creating a 20 long vertical tank. It'll have about 6 bromeliads and a lot of vines. What frogs do you think I can pop in hear? I was thinking a pair of imitators? The substrate will be ABG mix and the background will be clay.
Sounds real good ready see pictures on this thing. Try looking on eBay or Craigslist they might Have the conversion kit. It sounds real good so far also.
 

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Alrighty. Here's the pics. The false bottom's in, the tanked sparkling clean, and the light's going.
I probably will just buy from AAA. I have also heard they make good items but the order takes about a week to go through, and I cant put my background on until it comes or else it'll dry out. Sorry for the delay! Also sorry it took so long, I had to resize them. Fixed.


 

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Your false bottom looks good. I dont recall, have you got your leaf litter yet? if you make your own, it takes a while to dry out the leaves. Just fyi if havent thought about that yet. Good leaf litter is like McDonald drive thru for frogs : )
 

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Your false bottom looks good. I dont recall, have you got your leaf litter yet? if you make your own, it takes a while to dry out the leaves. Just fyi if havent thought about that yet. Good leaf litter is like McDonald drive thru for frogs : )
Haha, lol. I'm ordering my leaf litter from aaafrogs too. Getting magnolia since I heard oak can melt fast. Thanks for reminding me! lol.
 

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My substrate is sort of like the ABG mix, but this drains better. It's about 2 parts peat moss and 1 part organic potting soil. I've had amazing springtail populations and great plant growth from some ficus pumila. This time I changed it up a bit though, it's about half and half of both, so it drains even better. The organic potting soil i'm using has mulch, fern root, some peat mixed in already, and coco husk mashed up.
 

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Haha, lol. I'm ordering my leaf litter from aaafrogs too. Getting magnolia since I heard oak can melt fast. Thanks for reminding me! lol.
There are lots of oak species - Im sure it varies, the trees in my yard and around are durand oak, bur oak, live oak and red oak, they collect all around and it takes over a year for them to rot. I like to mow them up and use them as mulch in my garden.

Yeah those magnolia leaf are made of titanium... I dont like my mower to hit those, dulls the blade -
 

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Heres my plan. Pretty basic, the background and planting is the tricky part.
 

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There are lots of oak species - Im sure it varies, the trees in my yard and around are durand oak, bur oak, live oak and red oak, they collect all around and it takes over a year for them to rot. I like to mow them up and use them as mulch in my garden.

Yeah those magnolia leaf are made of titanium... I dont like my mower to hit those, dulls the blade -
Lol! I wonder though. We don't have oaks here, we have to go into town and thats the only place I know of any oaks around here (I love in colorado) and I found grape leaves to be cheap. I don't know though. Still going for magnolia, but i'll keep an open mind.
 

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Its looking good. I like the texture of your substrate too. And there is a real good positive thing on these 20 gallon tanks they are freaking tall standing straight up so its a perfect tank for thumb and other tree dwelling frogs
 

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Its looking good. I like the texture of your substrate too. And there is a real good positive thing on these 20 gallon tanks they are freaking tall standing straight up so its a perfect tank for thumb and other tree dwelling frogs
Yeah, the texture is a nice thing about mixing it with the bark. I actually added more organic soil shortly after posting this to help it drain and look more appealing. I did an experiment with this mix and plants thrive in it, never had root rot either. I'm really exited to see how the long narrow look works out. I think a few thumbs would love this. What I like about yours is that you were really enthusiastic about a 20L tank and you did a good job. A lot of people that do 20 longs make it look like they slapped it together in a few days. I'm actually a tiny bit happy that I won't be ordering the conversion kit for a while, I love planning. Planned tanks = beast tanks. Thanks again man!
 

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I construct my own doors. Just go to Ace and get a few pieces of glass cut. Here it's around $3.50 for three pieces and I ordered a 6ft section of living hinge for around $12 and that'll last me a long time on 10 and 20 gallon verts. Velcro adhesive strips to secure the door.
 

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I may Have to consider using your substrate design when I design any new tanks lol. On this tank I planned I swore like two to three months. And I'm still planning. I'm also suffering from ets now. But keep me updated on your tank. And thanks again for liking my tank
 
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