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Old 04-07-2013, 05:14 PM
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I'm figuring out how to use this laptop with my camera and wanted to share some pics of my glass frogs.I had gotten them last year.They eat like little monster and can take down some fairly large prey.They call all the time.I haven't seen these guys posted on here before.Is anyone working with them?
I will try and find the latin name for them and post it later.
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Old 04-07-2013, 05:32 PM
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They are Mantidactylus pulcher.
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Old 04-07-2013, 06:15 PM
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nice frogs Lou, I think Greg (mydumbname) has glass frogs. Might not be the same? Wish I had access to crickets I would keep tree frogs!
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Old 04-07-2013, 06:20 PM
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I forget the species he has.They are beautiful though,and tiny compared to these guys.I'm waiting for him to get them breeding
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nice frogs Lou, I think Greg (mydumbname) has glass frogs. Might not be the same? Wish I had access to crickets I would keep tree frogs!
Yes If my memory serves me right they are the same. If you pm me I can get you crickets if you're interested. These are pretty cool frogs, have you found any eggs from them?;D
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nice frogs Lou, I think Greg (mydumbname) has glass frogs. Might not be the same? Wish I had access to crickets I would keep tree frogs!
True glass frogs are from the Neotropics and are in the family Centrolenidae. These got the trade name glass frogs because they are translucent, similar to Hypsiboas punctatus.

These are from Madagascar and are from the family Mantellidae, so they are more closely related to Mantellas and Boophis than true glass frogs.

Lou, do you know what part of Madagascar these are from? I know Josh's Frogs is working with a group of Boophis sp., so it may be worth getting in touch with them for care similarities.
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Old 04-07-2013, 06:57 PM
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Yes If my memory serves me right they are the same. If you pm me I can get you crickets if you're interested. These are pretty cool frogs, have you found any eggs from them?;D
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I'm pretty sure his are different.His are full grown and about 1/4 of the size.I have not found any eggs yet,but as you can see they are fat,so you never know.You are going to the meet next week right?


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True glass frogs are from the Neotropics and are in the family Centrolenidae. These got the trade name glass frogs because they are translucent, similar to Hypsiboas punctatus.


These are from Madagascar and are from the family Mantellidae, so they are more closely related to Mantellas and Boophis than true glass frogs.

This is correct

Lou, do you know what part of Madagascar these are from? I know Josh's Frogs is working with a group of Boophis sp., so it may be worth getting in touch with them for care similarities.
I'm not sure which part they are from,But I will look into it as well as getting in touch with josh's.All the info I can get always helps.Thanks
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Old 04-07-2013, 07:00 PM
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Yes If my memory serves me right they are the same. If you pm me I can get you crickets if you're interested. These are pretty cool frogs, have you found any eggs from them?;D
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Actually,I think Spaff may have hit it on the head,I believe they are Hypsiboas punctatus.
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Actually,I think Spaff may have hit it on the head,I believe they are Hypsiboas punctatus.
If Greg has the UE glass frogs, they are Hyalinobatrachium valerioi, which are true glass frogs.

I suggested finding out where they are from because they may prefer more severe seasonal changes than darts which may trigger breeding.
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I'm pretty sure his are different.His are full grown and about 1/4 of the size.I have not found any eggs yet,but as you can see they are fat,so you never know.You are going to the meet next week right?




I'm not sure which part they are from,But I will look into it as well as getting in touch with josh's.All the info I can get always helps.Thanks
Yes Lou I will be there. Yes I do believe he said he got his from UE so my mistake.
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:46 PM
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I remember seeing those on ks a while back. I came very close to getting some. What's the call like?
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Old 04-08-2013, 12:19 AM
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Yes they had them ,about a year ago.They have two really cool calls.One is a buzzing chatter about twice as loud as as a tinc and the other is kind of a chirp.I'm not doing the call justice by explaining it this way,but I really like it.I have them in a 18x18x24 and they use every bit of it.
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Thanks for sharing. Do you have any pictures of their bellies, like a shot of them sleeping on the glass? I'm curious how transparent their stomachs are, compared to true glass frogs, and if you can see any of the organs inside.
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Nice work, Lou. Very few of these species last so you are seriously doing something right. Keep it up!
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Thanks Ray,I lost 2 of the 7 within the first 2-3 weeks but these guys have been going strong for over a year now and are very healthy.
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very nice lou! I still need to get down there and see your jungle.

Also, unless I missed something else, Greg has H. valerioi. He could be hiding something from me tho haha
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Thanks for sharing. Do you have any pictures of their bellies, like a shot of them sleeping on the glass? I'm curious how transparent their stomachs are, compared to true glass frogs, and if you can see any of the organs inside.
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I will try and get a belly shot the next time I catch them on the front glass.You can see the spine through their back skin.
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very nice lou! I still need to get down there and see your jungle.

Also, unless I missed something else, Greg has H. valerioi. He could be hiding something from me tho haha
Come to think about it you are right,they are valerioi.
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Come to think about it you are right,they are valerioi.
I only know this because I frequently harass him about getting them breeding so I can steal his offspring... then I get depressed when he reminds me they take FOREVER as tadpoles haha
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HaHa,kim's got them on our list,I like them too,but if she thinks they are on the list because she likes them that gives me more clout for getting some other frogs
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Mine are the valeroi. I have five with a definite male and am getting three more in June with a definite female. Now to work on their permanent tank. My 5 reached full size. Which isn't very big.
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These are Guibemantis pulcher. They have a large distribution throughout tropical forests in eastern Madagascar where they live and breed pretty much exclusively within the leaf axils of Pandanus - long stalky, spiny, big, water-holding palm-like plants - like this:



You can find whole communities within Pandanus, sometimes a couple different species of Guibemantis, Boophis, Phelsuma, plenty of weird insects, all within a single plant. Definitely cool amphibians, somewhat transparent skin, but very different from the glass frogs of the Neotropics. Captive husbandry might be best if it reflected their lifestyle within phytotelms, big bromeliads would probably work well since their Pandanus home won't fit in the average terrarium!
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Thanks Devin,I was hoping you would chime in.I have them heavily planted,but will look to get some large broms.They are in a 24'' tall so I can get some decent size broms in there.Nice habitat shot!
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Here are some close back shots because they were posing and I wanted to see if you could see the spine in these pics.I will get the belly shots when I can catch them on the glass.
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Just a quick FYI, Exoterra makes artificial Pandanus plants which I have used with success for other Malagasy natives.

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Thanks for the info Roman.How big are they and where did you find them?
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They are about 18" high by around 3-4" wide. I got mine at the Frog Day in Staten Island a couple of years back, but I would assume you should be able to get them at anyone authorized to sell ExoTerra products like Joshs or New England.
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I'll have to look into them.I can trim back the tank and add a couple of them if I can find them.
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BELLY SHOTS!!!!!

They decided to play and pose for some camera time.sorry it took so long but they usually don't hang on the front door when they have a little forest to inhabit.ENJOY!
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Those are freaking awesome! I would really love to have some of these guys. Oddlot is there anyway you can post your full setup and ambient temperature for these guys? When I think Madagascar I think cooler, but sometimes depending on the area it can get pretty warm.
I thought the 'true' glass frogs like it cold, is it the same for these guys?
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Thanks Josh,Sorry somehow I missed this post.I just did a temp reading.The gradient went from 81 at the top and as low as 74 to the bottom right now. There are a lot of plants in there and they can be found soaking in the bottom water bowl while some of the others are near the top. It definitely gets warmer in the summer.I keep them in the bottom of the rack.They are in an 18x18x24 zoomed.I have a piece of glass over the top revealing about 1''- 1 1/2'' now(but can cover it totally if need be) but in the summer I allow a lot more air flow by removing the glass a bit more.I will try and take a pic of the whole setup,but this is all common plants and nothing special,but they seem to like it.They are not true glass frogs and seem to handle it warmer than the others.They call all the time,all 4 seasons.I've heard at least 3-4 different types of calls from them.I still have all six doing well and going strong!
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They are so cool! I used to have a boophis viridis which had a similar see through underside. Unfortunately mine died as my mother forgot to feed it while I was on vacation!
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