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I don't know if this is a dumb question or not, but I was watching an animal show focusing on the Congo Rainforest in Africa and I was wondering if there were any frogs available within the hobby from the Congo?
If so, please list names and show pictures if possible. Thx.
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The Congo sucks to attempt to get frogs out of, but it is possible. Which species?
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The Congo sucks to attempt to get frogs out of, but it is possible. Which species?
I don't know. I was looking on the internet and found a list of about 50 species of amphibians endemic to the Congo but I did not recognize a single species other than Reed Frogs, but I'm not talking about those.

I also google image searched and only found 2 pictures ...
The Congo treefrog and the Banded Rubber Frog. Both were beautiful.


If exportation is allowed, I wonder why none of them have ever made it into the hobby after all this time. Kind of surprising.
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The Banded Rubber Frog AKA(Red banded Crevice Creeper) is frequently available, I have had them several times in the past, but they tend to burrow and made for a poor visual pet, so I decided they were not for me.
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Very few people have successfully imported from the Congo primarily because the exporters often don't supply animals or unhealthy ones, or the main reason, the airlines refuse to carry live herps from there as they are afraid of the exporters not conforming to IATA guidelines, which would cause the airlines to be fined (they have in the past).

Most of the cool species there are protected by CITES....otherwise I'd have them.


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I don't know. I was looking on the internet and found a list of about 50 species of amphibians endemic to the Congo but I did not recognize a single species other than Reed Frogs, but I'm not talking about those.

I also google image searched and only found 2 pictures ...
The Congo treefrog and the Banded Rubber Frog. Both were beautiful.


If exportation is allowed, I wonder why none of them have ever made it into the hobby after all this time. Kind of surprising.
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The rubber frogs are available from West Africa and go for a few dollars, cheap guys. The reed frogs sometimes come in from other countries....nice ones like that, but not too often.
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The rubber frogs are available from West Africa and go for a few dollars, cheap guys. The reed frogs sometimes come in from other countries....nice ones like that, but not too often.
I've never seen Rubber Frogs for sale. Reed frogs have never interested me due to their short lifespan.
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I've had the Banded Rubber Frogs before. Neat frogs, but I dont think they were from the rainforest
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I've never seen Rubber Frogs for sale. Reed frogs have never interested me due to their short lifespan.
Then the "closest" that are available would be tree frogs of the genus Leptopelis, and the East African Kassina maculata. These make good, responsive pets, will readily eat from your fingers. Be aware though, they will all inhale whatever fits in their mouths.

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I believe that African Dwarf Clawed Frogs (Hymenochirus species) originate from the Congo as well. I love these little guys and have had a bunch in the past. They even bred for me. Very underrated if you ask me.....
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African dwarf frogs, Leptopelis, and the smaller species of Conraua (slippery frog) are frequently available.

I wish Mantellas were also found on mainland Africa because then we'd have as many species as darts
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The only ones of these imported from the Congo in the last five years are the African Dwarf Frogs.

No Leptopelis have been imported from there for at least 20-30 years. The Conraua from there have only been kept by one person.

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I wish Mantellas were also found on mainland Africa because then we'd have as many species as darts

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The only ones of these imported from the Congo in the last five years are the African Dwarf Frogs.

No Leptopelis have been imported from there for at least 20-30 years. The Conraua from there have only been kept by one person.
Have ADFs been imported? I was under the impression that everything has been farm bred for a long time.
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Most are farm bred but a few thousand still make their way to tropical fish importers every year from the Congo.


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LLL Reptile in Escondido had 'Fire Walking Frogs' which appear to be the same as the banded rubber ones. They had them once about 2 years ago, that was it. Pretty frogs too!
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Here is a new and undescribed frog I got in from the Congo years ago.

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Here is a new and undescribed frog I got in from the Congo years ago.

Awesome. Beautiful frog.

Why do I get the feeling that you're the guy I need to talk to, to obtain one of my "wishlist" frogs?
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I'm always the guy to talk too, hahaha...

I won't be doing Congo frogs again for a little while, too much trouble and headaches unless I go over there myself. No trips planned as of now.

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Awesome. Beautiful frog.

Why do I get the feeling that you're the guy I need to talk to, to obtain one of my "wishlist" frogs?
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I know what show that was. It was 'Africa', by Discovery. Awesome show.
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I know exportation is limited because of what is going on in the DRC. One of the reasons it is so hard to get any decent A. squamigera in the US.
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No, the only areas affected are the North Eastern DRC near Uganda. The problem is the airlines will not accept live reptiles (especially venomous) because they are often packed incorrectly and when the shipments are inspected in Europe the airlines end up being fined. Also...the exporters there are of poor quality.

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I know what show that was. It was 'Africa', by Discovery. Awesome show.
You are correct!
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So far I'm loving the show, but I haven't gotten around to seeing yesterday's episode yet. Thank goodness for DVR's.
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I only suggest Kassina maculata because they're soooo easy, and for me, close enough But if you need to be politically accurate, how about Kassina sengalensis? Okay, so the one(s) you get may not come out Congo, but the species is native to that country.

You know you can narrow down some species yourself: Have you perused

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Think Arthroleptidae, Hyperolidae, Ranidae, Pipidae; Just plug in your Latin, and you're off. Do let us know how much time you spend there...

Seriously, I dig this site, because it gives you distribution and some habitat information.
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I just watched the Congo episode; Best one yet! I especially loved the part with the jumping fish.
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I browsed trough the lists for the countries in the congo rainforest region, and I found some nice pictures:

Hyperolius viridiflavus alborufus


Hyperolius argus


Hyperolius riggenbachi hieroglyphicus


Cardioglossa cyaneospila


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Wow, the toes/ feet on that last one are really unique! Does it help them do anything unusual like the webbed feet of gliding frogs?
I had a Phrynomantis bifasciatus once, it was sold to me as a "red legged walking frog" or something like that at a pet store. Nice frog, but it burrowed and didn't do a whole lot.
Some of the reed frogs posted above are pretty sweet.
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I'd like some of these, but CITES I. Still, fairly common species in some areas.

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I'd like some of these, but CITES I. Still, fairly common species in some areas.

What is DAT?!? Pleeeease.....
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Wow, the toes/ feet on that last one are really unique! Does it help them do anything unusual like the webbed feet of gliding frogs?
I have no clue haha. They stood out and looked really interesting, so I figured I'd post them. Maybe someone else knows whats up with those cool feet!
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Bufo superciliaris correction Amietophrynus superciliaris
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Bufo superciliaris correction Amietophrynus superciliaris

It is now A. channingi

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Here is a new and undescribed frog I got in from the Congo years ago.

Looks like Cryptothylax greshoffii
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It sure does, but it is not. This frog along with another one are currently part of a grad students thesis project. So hopefully at some point here a description will take place.
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Does that mean I can import it now? Hahahaha.....one can wish.

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Looks like Cryptothylax greshoffii
Awesome, I caught some of these last night near Kikwit, DRC
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