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Old 09-10-2012, 11:01 PM
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Hello All!

I have been researching for the past few months what my first frog should be- and I figured the red eyes would be a good foot in the door. I have some questions that I'm sure some more experienced member might be able to help me with!
1. For new froglets, what do you keep them in that is simple and cheap for a grow-out? (critter keeper, sraight into a large terrarium)
2. is there a combination of sexes that is not OK ( 2 males, 2 females, ect.) and when does that start to be a problem?
3. I plan on making a 18x18x24 exo-terra for them when they are a bit larger, have you guys observed that a. callydrias has a preferance more for the glass sides (more of a euro- type terrarium) plants, or wood?
4. Is a water feature necessary/ beneficial for red- eyes?
5. LASTLY- have you noticed color variation between individuals based on locale- not albino/ lutino vs. wild-type but belize/ colombia/ costa rica?

THANKS!!!! Way to make my first post a monster, lol
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:02 AM
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First off, welcome to the forum I started with red eyes too. They are so beautiful. They should be a breeze to take care of, just make sure you ask questions.

1. For new froglets, what do you keep them in that is simple and cheap for a grow-out? (critter keeper, sraight into a large terrarium)

How big are they? I think they would be fine in a 10 gallon for now. After that, I would try to go 10 gallons per frog. You can pick up a 10 gallon aquarium with a lid for about $10 or craigslist. For the humidity you can cover some of your screen lid with saran wrap.

2. is there a combination of sexes that is not OK ( 2 males, 2 females, ect.) and when does that start to be a problem?

I dont think there is a problem with keeping them together. Honestly, they sleep all day and arent active too much. I have never heard of red eyes fighting but if you do happen to see one being bullied then I would seperate it. I highly doubt you will have that problem though.

Also, if you are looking to breed them one day it would be best to have more males. So 2 males and 1 female would be great. It is hard to sex them when they are froglets still though.

3. I plan on making a 18x18x24 exo-terra for them when they are a bit larger, have you guys observed that a. callydrias has a preferance more for the glass sides (more of a euro- type terrarium) plants, or wood?

They pretty much hang on the glass for me. The other stuff is more for looks. They do like plant leaves also and places to hide. Pothos is great for red eyes. A 18x18x24 would be wonderful.

4. Is a water feature necessary/ beneficial for red- eyes?

A waterfall is not necessary but a water dish is. They will soak in their water dish at night or sit on the edge of it. Make sure you change the water every day

5. LASTLY- have you noticed color variation between individuals based on locale- not albino/ lutino vs. wild-type but belize/ colombia/ costa rica?

I have heard some people say they have noticed different colors. I have heard people say things like " those look like my costa ricans" etc Im not positive though.

If you ever have any more questions let me know Id be more than happy to answer them.
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I keep mine at 60%to 50% humidity during the day with misting at night. I know many people prefer that to keep conditions where bacteria and fungus have a harder time growing.
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First off, welcome to the forum I started with red eyes too. They are so beautiful. They should be a breeze to take care of, just make sure you ask questions.

1. For new froglets, what do you keep them in that is simple and cheap for a grow-out? (critter keeper, sraight into a large terrarium)

How big are they? I think they would be fine in a 10 gallon for now. After that, I would try to go 10 gallons per frog. You can pick up a 10 gallon aquarium with a lid for about $10 or craigslist. For the humidity you can cover some of your screen lid with saran wrap.

2. is there a combination of sexes that is not OK ( 2 males, 2 females, ect.) and when does that start to be a problem?

I dont think there is a problem with keeping them together. Honestly, they sleep all day and arent active too much. I have never heard of red eyes fighting but if you do happen to see one being bullied then I would seperate it. I highly doubt you will have that problem though.

Also, if you are looking to breed them one day it would be best to have more males. So 2 males and 1 female would be great. It is hard to sex them when they are froglets still though.

3. I plan on making a 18x18x24 exo-terra for them when they are a bit larger, have you guys observed that a. callydrias has a preferance more for the glass sides (more of a euro- type terrarium) plants, or wood?

They pretty much hang on the glass for me. The other stuff is more for looks. They do like plant leaves also and places to hide. Pothos is great for red eyes. A 18x18x24 would be wonderful.

4. Is a water feature necessary/ beneficial for red- eyes?

A waterfall is not necessary but a water dish is. They will soak in their water dish at night or sit on the edge of it. Make sure you change the water every day

5. LASTLY- have you noticed color variation between individuals based on locale- not albino/ lutino vs. wild-type but belize/ colombia/ costa rica?

I have heard some people say they have noticed different colors. I have heard people say things like " those look like my costa ricans" etc Im not positive though.

If you ever have any more questions let me know Id be more than happy to answer them.
Thank you so much for the help! This helps so much! I will harass you for more questions shortly, I'm sure
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I keep juvenile red eyes in exo-terra faunaria with paper towels on the floor, a shallow water dish and a potted plant with leaves large enough for the frogs to sleep on. The adult tanks are just large versions of the juvenile tanks. Ventilation is really important, especially for juveniles. I maintain a RH of around 65-70% in the day, with a temp of 25-30C (a vertical gradient, warmest at the top near lights); at night temps fall to 21-22C with a corresponding increase in RH to about 85%. The animals are sprayed just after lights out. It's important that all the surfaces in teh tank dry out in betwwen spraying. If surfaces are always wet you will end up with fungal and bacterial disease really quickly.

If you provide large-leafed, sturdy plants with a smooth, waxy texture, the frogs will sleep on them, but in my experience they spend a lot of time on the glass. I've never kept them without access to glass, but I'm sure they would be fine as long as they have suitable plants (as in the wild!!!)

Re the different localities, recent genetic work (soon to be published) showed that 'callidryas' is actually about 6 different species, spread across it's huge wild range. I can't remember the details, but I think there are different species in Costa Rica (North and South), Nicargua, Belize, Honduras and elsewhere in their range. Some of them are quite restricted geographically and may be threatened with extinction.

For most of them, morphology (colouration of the sides, most obvously) tells them apart, assuming they are not already hybridised. If you can, stay with one morphological form, or one locality if it's available.

Good luck with you frogs, this species is lovely and very hardy, so long as cleanliness and good ventilation/dry surfaces are maintained.

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