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Old 04-03-2012, 02:41 PM
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I got my glass frogs the first of March order and have been planning and makeing rocks for my build. I finally finshed it I still need to add a small pump for water movement.

Got the glass frog tank finished except for adding a small pump for water movement.....

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and a small piece of ficus wanna see if I can get it vine around the base....

It is being lit by a 24w 4.5k/6.5k LED spot light.
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Looks good, but I would add some more plants and fill up some of that unused vertical space. Got any pics of the frogs, I'd love to see those!!
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Thanks....It has quite a bit of growing in to do the Philodendron gloriosum will get really bigand fill in some space as well. Same with the Syngonium rayii once it starts and fills in I have some home made vines I might add to give the live vines something to hang on to.
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WOW those are just amazing! I have read about them being difficult to care for in captivity, but I wish you the best of luck with them! I really regret not being able to see those when I was in Costa Rica a year ago.
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WOW those are just amazing! I have read about them being difficult to care for in captivity, but I wish you the best of luck with them! I really regret not being able to see those when I was in Costa Rica a year ago.
They are IMO, incredibly easy to care for IMO, i have a very simple tank, and mine are thriving [i've even heard some calling, when im up at 2 in the morning..]
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Good to hear you are getting calling Jerm....Thanks Cschub.
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I have some photos and video of Brian's setup in CR (ie. the grandparents of all our frogs). I'll try to post soon as I'm basing my tank on Brian's.
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Awesome looking frogs! I'm so jealous. Is that a 20 or 30 vert you have there?
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Awesome looking frogs! I'm so jealous. Is that a 20 or 30 vert you have there?
That is a 20g long.....Was going to do a 40 breeder but for the same price of the breeder I could get 3-20g longs for verts.
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I have some photos and video of Brian's setup in CR (ie. the grandparents of all our frogs). I'll try to post soon as I'm basing my tank on Brian's.
When you find them Ray please post.....I have the book he published on Glass frogs. Really great read.




On a side note.....I taped off a part of the main vent(3 1/2") on the top as it doesn't seem to hold the humidity for very long. Although they don't need the high humidity of dart frog tanks still needs to be higher then what it seems the venting on this is holding.
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Is that enough space for them? How many do you have?

Curiously, I have an identical 20 long vert built for some clown tree frogs (with the same spot LED from Todd btw). My vent is a little wider at 4 inches. Without the fan running, the humidity stays at around 70-80%. With the fan on, it quickly drops to 40% so I have the fan running in spurts only.

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Here you go, grandparent's viv.
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Is that enough space for them? How many do you have?

Curiously, I have an identical 20 long vert built for some clown tree frogs (with the same spot LED from Todd btw). My vent is a little wider at 4 inches. Without the fan running, the humidity stays at around 70-80%. With the fan on, it quickly drops to 40% so I have the fan running in spurts only.
It's only a probable pair I have another vent towards the bottom that is a 1 1/2". I would think it would be enough especially once the plants grow in and fill in some of the empty vertical space. I love the LED spots I have 5 of them now and would like to have one spot per viv at least....I have found great growth and color from the plants.
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Thanks for posting the picture Ray.....He has one thing I was trying to avoid in that making a full background and land area. From reading the book it is/was my understanding that they very rarely if ever travel on the ground. In the sense that they are totally arboreal. Not to mention a river/waterfall structure and the hassle that comes with those. Hopefully in mine I can simulate the moving water similar to actually having a river structure.with the base structure and the small pump once I get installed...We shall see how it goes.

I will keep this updated once they are introduced and share what I see and find.

Ray when you get to making your please share, this way those of us that have them can share info and insights we my find in the differant approaches.
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Looking good Azurel, that should work well when it grows in. Here is my enclosure which houses 3 (starting to get calling from the male), for the pictures I removed a large potted philodendron that I am keeping in there until things grow in some more. I tried to base it off of Brian's tanks as well as the ones at EVACC in Panama when when I worked there.



Thanks for posting the picture Ray, I would really love to see any other photos you took of Brian's place and definitely show us your enclosure when your finished!
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Looking good Azurel, that should work well when it grows in. Here is my enclosure which houses 3 (starting to get calling from the male), for the pictures I removed a large potted philodendron that I am keeping in there until things grow in some more. I tried to base it off of Brian's tanks as well as the ones at EVACC in Panama when when I worked there.



Thanks for posting the picture Ray, I would really love to see any other photos you took of Brian's place and definitely show us your enclosure when your finished!
Tank looks great ghetto..... I added the frogs last night.
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I keep mine in a similar tank like yours. Shitty thing is that the tank doesn't allow for a rood rainsystem to be installed. Which is why I place mine in a different tank for breeding purposes.

This is the tank in which I place them to induce breeding, which is very succesfull. The only problem is the water in my current home. The tadpoles always die for some reason. Right now I seem to have better results with water tapped at my parents house.
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Looks good Remco, I really like how efficient that is. How long do you keep the misting system going?
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The tank holds just one pair of Espadarana cf. prosoblepon. It's 100x60x60 cm, which is what I had available for this purpose, but half this size would work just as fine.

It contains some 10 cm of water which is circulated by a small pump in the far right corner. The water also contains a couple of Catappa leafs. Inside the water I've put 4 clay pots turned upside down. On these pots 4 Epipremnum aurea are placed, where the clay pots underneath make sure the potting soil doens't get soaked and influence water quality too much.

It has a spraying pump underneath the tank situated on a waterreservoir. In the tank there are two nozzles spraying a fine mist. Sprayed water will flow back into the reservoir by means of an overflow. This way it's easy to rain the frogs 24 hours a day. I rain them for 24 hours to get eggs, then keep them dry and well fed for two weeks, then rain again for 24 hours. This way I get clutches every 2 weeks. After a few clutches I put them back into their normal tank, and dry them out for a couple of months, after which I repeat the above.
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Nice breeding tank! How long have you had them? Do you have any pictures of the normal tank?

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Interesting set-up Shockfrog....Thank you for sharing the info and pictures....Good luck with future clutches....

I have a question as well..... Does anyone use a red light to watch them at night? Does the red light work for these frogs as it does for other nocturnal animals? On my days off I am up late and would like to watch them interact and see what goes on with them in their active hours but don't want to shock( no pun intended) them with a bright flash light.....
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I got them as tadpolesabout 2,5 years ago, so they are at least 2 years out of the water.

Don't have a good shot of their normal tank though, but its not worth shooting one anyway. It's a normal dartfrog tank, 60x60x60 cm, cork background and sides, bark on the bottom, ditch in the front, and one big Philodendron sp.

I don't have any red light to watch them. They will come out at least an our before ligths out, so that's the time you can watch them. They also tend to be active during the daytime when it rains heavily. I've never tried red light, but I guess it'll work.
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I got them as tadpolesabout 2,5 years ago, so they are at least 2 years out of the water.

Don't have a good shot of their normal tank though, but its not worth shooting one anyway. It's a normal dartfrog tank, 60x60x60 cm, cork background and sides, bark on the bottom, ditch in the front, and one big Philodendron sp.

I don't have any red light to watch them. They will come out at least an our before ligths out, so that's the time you can watch them. They also tend to be active during the daytime when it rains heavily. I've never tried red light, but I guess it'll work.
I was wondering cause I work third shift and when they are active I am at work, and on my days off I am up late most of the time.....

Thanks for sharing your experiences m8 much appreciated.
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I've wondered the same thing. I notice that my RETF's pupils don't really dilate when red light hits them, unlike my crested gecko. It makes me think that they don't really notice it, but that is far from being proof. I wonder if anyone has any articles about any frog's spectrum of visible light...
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I have a light dome I am gonna try it with once I get a red light bulb and will update once I do it....

So far they are doing great in their tank.
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Keep in mind, water movement helps a lot...
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I have a small tunze power head in there that make quite a bit of water movement.....

So far they are doing good and have added some weight....No calling from what I have heard or not heard.....
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Here is a updated picture.... They seem to possably pairing up you will always find them sleeping together now....
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Here is a updated picture.... They seem to possably pairing up you will always find them sleeping together now....
yeah, my group does that as well. I believe you can sex them by nuptial pads on their thumbs (males having them) but haven't yet attempted to with my 5.
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Beautiful frogs! I hope you guy's have success breeding them! Good luck! Oh, sign me up for some when you have some froglets, lol.
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yeah, my group does that as well. I believe you can sex them by nuptial pads on their thumbs (males having them) but haven't yet attempted to with my 5.
Yea I have read that in the Glass frog book but haven't done that either.... Now that you bring it up I might take a look to see where I am at. They are supposed to be a probable pair male/female but they said no garuntee...Will have to take a look. Makes me nervous they look so fragile to be handling...I know they are tougher then they look but.....

Will update once I take a look.....
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Although they are active almost exclusivly at night they do and will wake up and do there thing after a good misting. They are really beautiful frogs well worth every cent paid.
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Well, have one female...

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That's awesome Ray.....Good luck with those.



I'm not sure what sexes I have yet I have heard no calling although I work nights, but listen my nights off and haven't heard a thing or seen any gravid frogs....
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found what could only be an abandon dried up egg mass under a leaf today, a step in the right direction!
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found what could only be an abandon dried up egg mass under a leaf today, a step in the right direction!
That's great man....Keep us updated you can do it here in this thread if you want to....I am not worried about hijacking or anything. Post pics of the frogs and tank as well if you like....
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That's great man....Keep us updated you can do it here in this thread if you want to....I am not worried about hijacking or anything. Post pics of the frogs and tank as well if you like....
I was hoping to see something like this soon as my females have had visible eggs and the male has been calling almost nightly for about 4 months now. I'm not expecting anything more at the moment as my crappy AC is finding it difficult to maintain a steady comfortable temperature in this east coast heat wave (pretty much all my frogs have stopped breeding because of this) but the heat is meant to break soon with some storms coming in which I hope will trigger some action. If not I will probably move them into a rain chamber later this month. I'll post some recent pictures when I have a moment!
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Any breeding on these guys?
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