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Old 06-11-2015, 05:19 PM
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Hello, I acquired a bicolor monkey frog last week and have him in a 16X16X24 Nat geo terrarium. The top and part of one side of the tank are screen. I have a basking spot of about 90-95 degrees and a UV-B light as well. I also have a small personal fan, pointed at the wall and bouncing air into the screened portion of the side of the tank for air flow. His belly has gotten a little bigger than when I first bought him and cant tell if it is because he was dehydrated when I got him or if something is wrong. He hangs out in a shaded area near the water bowl all day and soaks at night. He has pooped twice since we've had him, but I concerned with him staying in the shade and not basking. The bottom of the tank has a thin layer of coco fiber covered with some large fake elephant ear leaves so he doesn't get soil all over him. Any suggestions? I was told he was captive bred, but I'm not sure..
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:10 PM
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What did you pay for him? Not to many people have bred them. Good luck with him, they are killer frogs.
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Right over $100..do you have any experience with these frogs?
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:49 PM
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Wow, 90 degrees sounds way too hot for any frog!

Check with rainforestjunkys.com. I remember they were breeding them at one time and may still be able to provide you care instructions. They have a care instruction for Phyllomedusa tomopterna, which may be a good starting point, except that you need a really big enclosure.

Those poops must be huge, so a fecal test will be easy.

And we need pictures!

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Old 06-11-2015, 10:43 PM
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If you buy anymore quarantine, quarantine, quarantine. Before you add. I know some years ago I had a healthy group. I added 2 more and within days they were wiped out. I was sick.
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Wow, that seems really hot. The temperature should be in the like 72F-85F -- get rid of that basking light. Staying in the water all day is a sign of stress, which is probably from the intense heat, and a sign that it's trying to cool off.

A quick skimming of the OP tells me you're lots of things wrong:
  • Temp is way too hot
  • If this is an adult, the tank is WAY too small. you should have at least a 55G tall for it

Post some pictures of the frog and enclosure, they would help diagnose additional problems

Oh, and here's Mike Novy's care sheet on these guys:
http://talkto.thefrog.org/index.php?...ad&topic=19976
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Wow! I didn't get email notifications about the responses! Thank you all for the suggestions.. Following my initial post I did even more research and got him moved into the setup in the pictures.. 18x18x36 all mesh. He did eat twice in the last week, dusted/ gut loaded crickets (ate 9-10 large both times). He is still hanging out at the bottom of the cage though :/ and I don't know what else to do. I try to be quiet in the room and not mess with him more than I need to (move him to change the water in the bowl if he is still sitting on it). The room stays around 75 -80 degrees (I have a small heater that turns on if it gets too cold).
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Here's the pictures..
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Anybody have anymore thought or insight about the situation?
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What is the humidity level for the tank? With half of the lid exposed my guess would be humidity drops down too low on top of the heat issues that were already addressed


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Awesome frog! He looks healthy in the picture.

Did you trade in that basking light for something else? A compact fluorescent could probably give you plenty of heat.

Do you really need the fan? With a screen top and side, natural convection should suffice. Mist the tank in the evenings with distilled water.

The abrasive green carpet should go. Add a false bottom layer with ABG, and plant some sturdy vine plant like Pepperomia obtusifolia, Hoya carnos, or pothos.

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The bulb was changed to a red bulb with way less heat (by suggestion of the care sheet) but I don't know how to make a false bottom or set up a soil layer because the entire enclosure is mesh (was originally a tank with glass sides). Is his "canopy" area too exposed? Should I add more vines or plants on the sides of the screen.. Just can't figure this guy out, hahaha
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Anything? :/
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I was looking into getting one of these guys a while back but decided against it i wish i remembered more about what i read up about them but here is some care sheets on them and from what i remember they should be in a bigger tank than that and keep and eye on your humidity levels in a screen cage might be difficult to keep them where they need to be (i believe around 70 %). other then that the frog looks healthy.Good luck!!
Giant Waxy Monkey Tree Frog Care
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