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Default Hylomantis lemur viv help

Does anyone have any pics they can share of their H. lemur vivariums? I am considering getting a few, which will be my only non dart frogs in my frog room if I do. I have kept P. bicolor in simple set ups but I want something a bit nicer for these. I am planning an 18x18x24 exo terra with mostly pothos and spathiphyllum or some other large leaf philodendron. What are you guys using for the vivarium floor? River rock? Leca with some type of cover? Bare with just potted plants? Anyone using a water feature such as a drip wall or a water fall? Just looking for ideas.

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Subscribed. I'm very interested in these frogs, but know very little about them. Looking forward to seeing everyone's responses!

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I have two in a very simple set up for now. Sphagnum moss substrate and pothos clippings and a Caladium plant. I'm very interested in how other have their set ups too!
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Default Re: Hylomantis lemur viv help

Brian, here is an excerpt from Understory Enterprise's website:

"All post metamorphic froglets are placed immediately in a simple vivarium with a substrate consisting of about 3 cm of moist sphagnum moss, and a single potted broad leafed plant. (Make sure the sphagnum substrate is well compacted) The vivarium should be well ventilated, and we prefer those with ventilation both above and below the front opening door. If you choose to use a vivarium that is only top opening, such as a retrofitted aquarium, please ensure that at least 25% of the “lid” is screened to allow proper ventilation."

More info here as well:

Hylomantis Lemur Care | Understory Enterprises

Here is a youtube video that shows Manchester Museum's setup... while I don't really dig the absence of substrate, I think they are doing their setups for cleanliness.

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Thanks Matt. I have seen both the UE info and the video you posted. Great info for simplicity, but I'm hoping someone has a more naturalistic set up they can show me. I'm thinking kind of along the lines of a zoo display just on a smaller scale. Mostly wondering what can be done to have a good looking, full environment with plants, moving water, substrate, breeding spots, maybe even a fake rock background or partial background but still be able to be kept clean from fecal matter and dead/drowned crickets.

I'm thinking of a drip wall or slow trickle water fall into a central pond that I can put a potted spathiphyllum in. Maybe building up a background and floor out of a fake rock/zoopoxy style material with built in pockets that I can add LECA to in order to plant pothos or philodendron in. I figure the plants roots would grow through the bottom and reach the water in the LECA drainage layer below. If the majority of the surface is easily cleanable then maybe fecal matter won't be a big deal to spot clean, and the floor and back ground would give the crickets a place to crawl and hopefully keep them out of the water feature. In my head I'm picturing something a lot like arielelf's viv in this thread.
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Thanks H40T. Do you find that you have to constantly clean out crickets that have drowned? I would like a large water area but am concerned about having more drowned crickets than ones that actually get eaten.
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Why not use a cup or container for the crickets? I did it for retf so I wouldn't have to worry about them being impacted. Only negative is that it can be an eye sore. But no crickets to clean up and you know if they are eating.
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Why not use a cup or container for the crickets? I did it for retf so I wouldn't have to worry about them being impacted. Only negative is that it can be an eye sore. But no crickets to clean up and you know if they are eating.
That's the only way I feed crickets at my house! I hate escapees and this method can cut down on those, too. Random crickets chirping makes me insane and reminds why I love fruit flies so much

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That's the only way I feed crickets at my house! I hate escapees and this method can cut down on those, too. Random crickets chirping makes me insane and reminds why I love fruit flies so much



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Haha I have my tanks in my room and when I hear crickets chirp, I wake up and pull their wings off!


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Our group is in a 18x18x24 exo. It has a universal rock background that has a small waterfall in it. The substrate is egg crate, with weed blocker and just sphag on top. We added a nice pathos and some cork tubes. I think they are enjoying it Excuse the cell pics, but its what i had on hand.
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That is a beautiful frog!!
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Is your waterfall falling directly onto the sphag moss?

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I use a feeder cup for my Jacksons cham, I guess I just didn't think that the frogs would utilize it the same. I guess it sounds like I have a solution now! Thanks!

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Thanks! we have a great group of them!
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Is your waterfall falling directly onto the sphag moss?
We cleared a area in the back were its really more weed blocker than sphag and the water drains there. Zero issues with the setup
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How would you describe their call? How loud is it?
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How would you describe their call? How loud is it?
I wold describe it as a click like call....and for sure on the softer side for tree frogs
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