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Old 02-16-2012, 09:45 PM
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Finally got enough Great Stuff off my hands to type lol, I'm definitely getting disposable gloves when I go to buy more cans.

The cardboard in the pictures is in there just until some silicone dries



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I was initially gonna use the black foam for just the waterfall and against the glass on the sides, so it would be black when looked at from the side, however after seeing how little the pond foam expands I've decided to use it for just the waterfall.




Really should've been more patient with this part, got a lot of sag. For the time being it'll at least be a good base for the top layer:



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Interesting concept. Looking forward to the finished setup.
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You could carve those columns into tree trunks
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You could carve those columns into tree trunks
I was initially thinking some kind of rock carving but I think your idea would look a lot more realistic with the columns
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cool Idea..... not sure what im doing yet but thinking about a simple euro viv build..
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cool Idea..... not sure what im doing yet but thinking about a simple euro viv build..
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Love the look/color of that quickrete. Now I wonder why I silicone/wood glue all of the soil onto the gs instead of simply painting on quickcrete.

Awesome tank so far

Got any plants looking forward to putting in it or any idea on frogs?

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Love the look/color of that quickrete. Now I wonder why I silicone/wood glue all of the soil onto the gs instead of simply painting on quickcrete.

Awesome tank so far

Got any plants looking forward to putting in it or any idea on frogs?

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Plant options are totally open right now, I know I want some spike moss but for the most part I haven't put much thought into it. As for frogs the goal is Bumble Bee Toads but that too is up for consideration. I really want something that will make good use of all the land and ledges, but also the water portion too.
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Bumble bee toads are boring...I gave my three away. Now firebellies in a group are great fun to watch...I have them in a paladarium...
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Bumble bee toads are boring...I gave my three away. Now firebellies in a group are great fun to watch...I have them in a paladarium...
I have actually been recommended FB toads several times, hmm after hearing this I may have to change my mind. Do you think they would use my ledges?
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Firebelly Toads are fun to watch and amazing. They will climb everywhere, use up all space. My only problem with them is their ferocious appetite. At least mine liked so many crickets. If you have crickets down, then you are all set

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Old 02-28-2012, 07:28 PM
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Firebelly Toads are fun to watch and amazing. They will climb everywhere, use up all space. My only problem with them is their ferocious appetite. At least mine liked so many crickets. If you have crickets down, then you are all set

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Well I think I have my answer then! Thanks for all the info!



Anybody have experience with a good non toxic sealer/epoxy I could use to coat the mortar mix?
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As I told you numerous times before, you will not be disappointed with a group of Bombina orientalis.

Hope you're adept with gutloading crickets

Your construction looks great by the way! I look forward to this coming to life w/ vegetation, water, and light...
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As I told you numerous times before, you will not be disappointed with a group of Bombina orientalis.

Hope you're adept with gutloading crickets

Your construction looks great by the way! I look forward to this coming to life w/ vegetation, water, and light...
My apologies for the initial reluctancy, i was heavily biased by the quality of videos of BB toads vs. FB toads. I think you've all convinced me though on FB toads

Thanks! Oh me too, being a primarily aquarium owner I got to look at buying terrestrial plants for the first time the other day, I'm so excited. Recommendations are very welcome, I know one thing I want for sure is lily pads in the hopes one of the toads would chill on one.
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Bump for advice on sealer
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Do you guys think this would work as a non toxic sealer?

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Sorry, I have no experience with that product. As for plants, you may want to check out Philodendron Wend Imbe(Black Jungle and Josh's Frogs usually carry it), of course some Pothos can grow on land or water. There are quite a few mosses which can be kept in aquatic like environments as well...with a little reading up, you should come up with a nice list of plants for your tank and toads!
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Sorry, I have no experience with that product. As for plants, you may want to check out Philodendron Wend Imbe(Black Jungle and Josh's Frogs usually carry it), of course some Pothos can grow on land or water. There are quite a few mosses which can be kept in aquatic like environments as well...with a little reading up, you should come up with a nice list of plants for your tank and toads!
I really dig that Philodendron, I definitely want that and similar plants for the ledges.


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It's a marginal, so you can even put the roots in the water -- albeit shallow -- and it'll grow nicely! I have a few of them in my tanks
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Thanks! I'll definitely be stocking the tank with that, now my goal is to find terrestrial plants that grow well in about 1.5-2 inches of substrate, any ideas are very appreciated.

I finally found a coating/sealant for the grout, Rust-Oleum Parks Super Glaze, although I placed the order on the 18th and still hasn't even shipped out yet so I'm getting really antsy.
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Apparently the glaze is back-ordered , so I'm currently trying to see if I want to cancel the order and buy something else, I know I've said this many times before but any advice on sealant is very much appreciated, looking for a paint-on epoxy/sealer that will withstand constant submersion.

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Old 04-03-2012, 01:29 AM
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I finally found something (for the billionth time), and ordered a gallon of it:
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:14 AM
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The sealer I ordered finally came in! Also did some experimenting with coco fiber and grout last night.

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Here's some pictures of the tank after the first coat of sealer dried. Still haven't fully sealed the tank because there's more grouting and great stuff work to be done so there's no fts yet but here's some closeups of it

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So far I'm really happy with the sealer though, easy to apply, easy to clean and comes out looking great. In quite a few spots it gathered on individual coco fibre strands and looks like droplets of water

Here's a couple pics but it was tough to get a good shot of it. I'm also still failing at taking a good fts with the current lighting so I'll probably take a video later and post that.


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Old 05-15-2012, 11:14 PM
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Just took a video of the paludarium after the new light arrived. Not sure how I feel about the color, they sent 4x 6500k bulbs so I might look into replacing a couple. Sorry for the really dirty glass, I'm waiting on razor blades to clean up the leftover mortar mix. I also added some G.S. to the waterfall for a more realistic look. The blue led's are near the end of the video.

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Do you guys think I could get away without drainage holes? I was initially going to drill holes through the platform and planters however I was worried about what could get washed into the water, so I thought maybe I could bypass them with very careful waterings. What do you think?
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As for the water substrate I was thinking Flourite original for the color.

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Here's a video of it I took today, having the light on it made me see all the spots that need touching up but other than that it's almost ready for plants.

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Nighttime led's, although the camera I was using really hated the wavelength generated
I also went ahead and bought flourite original and dark so I can do some experimenting.

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Just ordered a heater as well:

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Got the filter in today, hooked everything up but not entirely happy with a couple things. The little pool next to the waterfall that has water coming entering at a drop a second (literally) has a spot near the back where the water is dripping onto the platform, that same spot also needs some grout so I'll post pictures once everything is finished
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Looks good, some plants will really look good against that color background. I have a few fire bellys, they will use the entire tank and love it how many are you going to put in there?
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Thanks! Good to hear about their activity level, sounds like exactly what I wanted. I actually haven't decided yet but I was thinking maybe 4-6? What do you think?
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I think that six would do good in there. Any idea what plants are going in?
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Cool! I don't have many ideas as far as terrestrial plants go, I know I want moss lining the platform near the edge of the water (to prevent substrate from being knocked into the water as much as possible) but that's about it. Probably some riccardia for the walls, various mosses around the water feature and some ferns for the back of the platform. Suggestions are very welcome
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I ran into a couple problems when I filled it up, the little pool to the left of the water feature (which slowly feeds the pool) had a low spot in the back where it was hard to reach. When it started filling up the water would drain backwards onto the platform instead of into the water portion, an obstacle I had for some reason not thought of when I was designing it. Thought I fixed it, filled it back up and there's still water back there! However it stayed the same level, so I tried draining the water portion and sure enough it drained from the platform, so there's a hole somewhere on it. I have it partially drained right now trying to dry out the platform so I can smother it in black silicone, since there will be soil over it anyways. Yesterday I added some of the flourite as well, will post pictures when everything settles.

Here's some pics now though to stay true to the title

Bottom of the tank; when I first started and used black great stuff I ended up spraying normal great stuff on top of it while it was still wet because I ran out of the dyed G.S., that black streak along the bottom is the black G.S. expanding underneath the white. I was mindblown at first to come to the tank the next day and see black G.S. oozing out of normal G.S. about a foot from where I sprayed it lol.





Flourite original and dark, original seems a little too light, dark seems a little too dark, hopefully combined it should just about match the grout.






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Really cool! Plants will love it in there. Sorry if I missed it will you include fish in the water area?
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