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I’m working on a vivarium for a cave gecko and I realized I’d forgotten to add a hide, which is probably important for a cave dwelling gecko. The problem is that I hate how unnatural most hides look. Half rounds, coconuts, cork tubes and plastic caves are all disqualified. The hard scape is composed of seiryu stone, so I was thinking maybe chiseling a little nook into one and then digging out a cave underneath, maybe supported with a frame of some sort to avoid collapse (clay maybe). Any tips on creating a natural looking hidey hole?
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Foam. Drylok mixed with an acrylic coloring of your preference. You can make a pretty decent rock cave without the weight and roughness of real rock. For reference you can look up how to do a drylok background its the same process.
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You can use silicone to stick seiryu stone together to construct a cave.
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They are laterally skilled specialists, check out the burly little mountain hook nails. They can live without the opportunity to scale and repose laterally but its a courtesy to allow an animal to use its gifts. Toothiness of surface is key to enable more scope. One hide isnt enough. Nor two. The more lairs, the better.
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I had read in some book about how to make a rock cave out of lava rocks by running string through them and locking them somehow without adhesive (if you want something you can disassemble), or the same rock cave out of lava rocks glued together (if you want something permanent but more quickly made).

The other posters' options are probably more practical and less time-consuming, and I'd recommend them first, but I list this one because it does meet the criterion of a "natural" looking cave-hide.
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The plan is to stack rocks and dig out caves underneath. I might try making something with expanding foam too. I’m also going to heavily plant the background to provide more cover. While I’m here, anybody know of any micro plants (I’m talking real tiny, think anubias nana petite) I could use as accents? Trying to replicate deciduous undergrowth. Thanks all
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Fake (faux rocks) from vivariumworks.com sells light weight safe faux rocks. You can still use rocks with a fraction of their true weight

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I can't help much with the cave ideas, since what others have mentioned are already good ideas. I can however offer some species of ferns that may be useful as small creeping plants. They are all epiphytes or hemiepiphytes. All have leaves under 3 inches.
  • Lemmaphyllum microphyllum: Native to Hainan, leaves 1-3 inches in most specimens. Others report that it likes to dry out a bit, but I have found it hardy in many circumstances.
  • Pyrrosia nummularifolia: Native to Hainan, 1/2 inch leaves with silvery hairs. Can get cranky under some conditions.
  • Pleopeltis percussa: (probably a microsorum, I think) Not native to Hainan. Pretty aggressive in my setups.
  • Elaphoglossum peltatum: Not native to Hainan, probably. Really weird leaves. Some say it is difficult.
  • Microgramma heterophylla: Not native to Hainan, leaves 1/4 inch or so.
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I was looking around and I was thinking about using a jewel orchid, Anoectochilus chapaensis. Does anybody know if that would work?
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Also, it is actually for a Japanese cave gecko, not Chinese, but thank you for the extra mile.
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I was looking around and I was thinking about using a jewel orchid, Anoectochilus chapaensis. Does anybody know if that would work?
I don't know which other plants you'd be trying to grow with it, but jewel orchids tend to like slightly different environs than that are used to grow those plants typically used in dart frog vivariums. But if it's a gecko, that may be different.

There was an excellent thread on this that I am unable to locate, and a lengthy post by kimcmich detailing all the ins and outs of jewel orchid care. The gist of it, from what I remember, was that you can keep jewel orchids alive in a PDF environment with some care.

I don't know what kind of moisture / humidity level your species of gecko enjoys, or what moisture / humidity level plants that are suitable to a gecko viv enjoy, but my guess is, if it needs less extreme humidity than a PDF, the plant should be able to survive.

Anyone with more experience with jewel orchids care to elaborate? I have kept some alive in fairly different conditions from one another, so the ones I've had seem pretty tolerant.
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