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Old 02-25-2013, 05:57 AM
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Hi everyone,

I had an old plant-only 18" Exo collecting dust, so I tore it down and decided to start anew. I sort of liked a corner section of the old background, though, so I wedged it in again, added some wood, and decided it was appealing enough -- or will be after some touch-ups -- to keep. But here's the question!

Should I foam up the remainder of the background and sides, or should I leave it as is? I've got a can of GS and loads of fine tree fern fiber at the ready.

Also, what do y'all think of the wood placement?

The tank zoomed out a little:


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Please pardon the dust. =)

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Ooh yea, I love that corner piece! Glad you saved it. I've been doing more with less background and I like the natural light that it allows into the tank.
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Hi Kris! Thanks for weighing in... as far as natural light goes, the light you see there is from the fixture over the tank (two t5ho bulbs). My room has blackout curtains I don't open often in the winter for fear of letting heat out. Poor insulation. =( Gotta try to keep the utility bills down.

I like the current look too, but at the same time I worry I won't have enough surfaces for loads of delicious plants. With the wood I've got a ton of space for broms, but what about vines? Ferns? Aaah! Choices!
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I don't know if they are still available, but, I bought some suction cups, at Lowe's, designed for hanging Christmas lights. They have a groove thing that the cord goes into. I've been using those to hang vines on glass. Works great!
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Thats looking good.
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I don't know if they are still available, but, I bought some suction cups, at Lowe's, designed for hanging Christmas lights. They have a groove thing that the cord goes into. I've been using those to hang vines on glass. Works great!
They have suction cups for routing aquarium airlines that I used for the same purpose.
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Your Viv looks nice! I also like minimum backgrounds.
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Thanks so much, y'all. =) Kris or Rob, do you have any pics of your vines in these suction cups? I've never thought of that and would like to see how it looks.

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I can take some tonight.
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Thanks so much, y'all. =) Kris or Rob, do you have any pics of your vines in these suction cups? I've never thought of that and would like to see how it looks.

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After looking at it a while, I added a piece of cork and a bit more wood (size queen...) and foamed it into place. Waiting on it to cure so I can hack and cut and glue the heck out of it!

I've been reading up a bit on drylok and TB3 with organic matter... once I find a tutorial, I might try that to cover the remainder of the GS you see here. Seems like people think it's less messy than silicone, and hey, I am all for that in every way imaginable.

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And another angle:


What do y'all think? =) If anyone wants to weigh in on the pros/cons of Drylok and TB3 that would be great too.

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Here are some pics. I think the suction cups for aquarium airlines might be smaller and look better. These are by no means show tanks, lol. I think with your plant skillz, you could do it so that the suction cups didn't show at all.

Inside the Sip tank
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Inside the El Dorado froglet tank (see the one stuck to the top of the tank)
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Outside view of the Red Amazonicus tank to show that the roots grow and attach to the glass. I could remove the suction cups and the vines would stay in place.
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In the Cayo de Aqua froglet tank and the Benedicta tank, I made islands on the glass for vines and for extra hanging out space for them. Again, I think you could make something like this a lot more interesting. These were quicky jobs for emergency tanks.

Cayo de Aqua froglet tank
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Thank you Kris. =) I'll keep these in mind.
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I finished covering the majority of the GS with TB3 + tree fern fiber tonight, and wow, it was quite messy -- but the results look pleasing at least! I'll post another pic after it cures.

Here's a question. I have a 22" Zoomed Aquasun light fixture over this tank. It houses two T5HO 6500k bulbs. I know the light's too big to fit neatly on top exactly, but it's the only thing I have -- will it suffice? I want nice colorful broms and good plant growth.

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Looks good!

I would imagine you'll be good with the 2 t5's. All the plants I could see are generally low-light tolerant.
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Which plants? The ones in the pictures aren't mine.

You would consider two T5HO bulbs at 6500k low light?
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Which plants? The ones in the pictures aren't mine.

You would consider two T5HO bulbs at 6500k low light?
Bah! I was skimming through the thread this morning and mistook FrogFace's photos's as yours!

I meant it more in the sense that low-light tolerant plants will do fine in moderate light.

I bet you will be able to grow most items to their full potential with the t5, you might just run into shadowing from larger growing plants.
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Not that the plants Kris posted are lacking, mind you... =) I think they're pretty -- I just didn't want to get credit for things that aren't mine.

I hope the lighting works out! I know the fixture itself sure is quiet. The whole viv is right next to my work area on my desk and it doesn't buzz or vibrate at all. Before I've only ever used either shop lights or CFL bulbs in the clamp fixtures, so this kind of lighting is new to me.
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Tonight was a night of making vines! I was just playing with them a little to see how they'd look. This is probably not their final arrangement, but moving them around sure was fun. Should I make some more to dangle from the wood, or is it already overkill?





I think maybe I'd like more in the top section up there. I'm still trying to decide if I should leave a gap at the top or if I should foam it up entirely. Opinions on this would be appreciated.

Also, the piece wedged up into the righthand corner for now is a huge chunk of resurrection fern from Zach (Spaff here on the boards). I'm leaving it there a while to see how I like it. So far I'm digging it. =)

Thoughts?

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Looking great! I like the space at the top.
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Thanks Kris! I'm gonna fiddle around with the vines a bit more tonight, and maybe make a few more thin ones to see what I can do with those. I like them but I need to do some serious arranging.

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I thiiiink I might be done with vines and stuff... time for plants?





Please tell me your thoughts. =)

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Very nice looking hardscape. Can't wait to see it planted!
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Here we go...







Some neat stuff growing out of the moss:






Can't wait to see what happens with this. =)

Plans: to add leaf litter, isopod/spring cultures, broms (N. 'Domino'), and a couple more plants. We'll see!

Comments or suggestions are welcome.

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I love it! Glad you didn't listen to me
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Awesome. What are the plants?
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It looks like you have Begonia thelmae and Begonia glabra. I don't know if you have had these in tanks before, but both of these grow like crazy for me. The B. glabra is almost overwhelming. Once it gets going it grows fast and spreads like crazy. The B. thelmae isn't near as bad. They both look great but do require frequent trimming for me.
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I know about the spreading habits of both begonias -- never had the glabra, but I've seen it take over other people's tanks. I'm prepared to prune! The thelmae's never gotten incredibly out of control for me, and I love the way it looks. I will say, though, that I'm very fond of shinglers and if I'm lucky enough to get some other stuff along the way, I won't mind taking out one thing and trying another.

Some of the plants (off the top of my head) are:
Pilea glauca
Begonia glauca
Begonia thelmae
Selaginella uncinata
Peperomia sp. Costa Rica
Peperomia prostrata
Polypodium polypodioides
Microsorum linguiforme
Nautilocalyx pemphidius
Ficus pumila var. quercifolia

I have no idea what most of the moss is, but it seems to be doing okay so far. =)

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Ash,

Is it the wild moss you posted a week or two ago?
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It is. I cleaned a portion of it to the best of my ability following some tutorials I found here, then stuck it in the tank to see what it would do. I don't know if it will spread or turn to slime or what, but lots of other very happy little plants have started to sprout from it and it hasn't gone brown and gunky yet. I'm enjoying it while it lasts. =)

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I am interested in seeing how it does. Keep us posted
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Update...

Some interesting thingies on the moss:






Peperomia prostrata:


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I had some resurrection fern up in the top right, but it didn't like me. There's little green moss spores left behind, though, and plenty of space for more plants or a nice bright brom... any suggestions? I'd appreciate your thoughts.

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Nice!!!! Are those Neo Domino I see?

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Looks great, if you have some good air flow try some air plants
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They are indeed Neoregelia Domino. =) One of my favorite broms, I couldn't resist.

I don't have fans on this tank, so I'm not sure tillies are a good idea (it's the same reason I've kept away from orchids). I may put another brom back there in that corner, a bigger one than the Domino. Dunno! Gotta think about it.

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Hmmm, this dischidia ruscifolia is blushing a bit under the light. Might need to move it eventually, but for now I'm seeing what happens:



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I like it! Any idea what you are going to put in here (sorry if you said it and I missed it)?
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I have two D. auratus 'El Cope' on order from UE from the June shipment. I was inspired to get them mostly by pictures of yours, FYI. =) I love the look of them.

I'm hoping auratus will be happy in this tank -- there's lots of cover and hiding places. I also really love tincs and leucs...

I'm open to suggestions.

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I have two D. auratus 'El Cope' on order from UE from the June shipment. I was inspired to get them mostly by pictures of yours, FYI. =) I love the look of them.

I'm hoping auratus will be happy in this tank -- there's lots of cover and hiding places. I also really love tincs and leucs...

I'm open to suggestions.

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I'm sure some auratus would like that tank. Mine use all the wood I have branching around at a 45 degree, and your tank has that as well. They also dug a hole in the substrate below a piece of wood that they hide in a lot haha. Mine really seem to like to have a canopy over them as well, so maybe some plants that create canopy would help as well

El Cope are awesome frogs. Mine are very bold, despite having recently been discovered by the cat who wandered in to my apartment...
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