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Old 06-16-2012, 08:02 PM
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Hi Everyone, I've been lurking for some time learning about Vivarium's, frogs and how to set up a tank. I'm not quite ready for my hand at frogs but maybe in the future. For now the tank is for plants only.

So I have completed my background in a 12x12x18 Zoo med and I'd like to add a few manzanita branches I have left over from my aquarium set up. But I am not 100% sure they work?

The bottom has a great piece of wood and will have about 2 inches of water as the wood has an interesting holey structure to it and I plan to add emersed HC, Fissiden and Christmas moss to the half submerges pockets. It has a false bottom about 1 inch above the water for plants, ferns and vines. Along with a very small pump for water circulation.

What do you think? Should I add the branches or leave them out?
One is gorrilla glues together and I still need to clean it up a bit if I end up using it.

thank you for your opinions!

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With branches2 (set up a bit differently)
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:38 PM
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Default Re: New Set up - Need advice Please

Looks like a long way for frogs to fall without them. If you leave them out, the background would need to be well planted. It would look pretty good with the branches if you can get some creepers or microgamma on them.
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Old 06-16-2012, 09:27 PM
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I would def. put the branches in. More stuff for epiphytes or vining plants to climb, and adds more character to the tank!
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I would def. put the branches in. More stuff for epiphytes or vining plants to climb, and adds more character to the tank!
Me too. And lets not forget about surface area for frogs. They will use them as well. I like #1 btw.
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I like it with the branches. You can hang moss off of them if you don't want to put vines in the tank. Nice work so far.
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Old 06-16-2012, 10:45 PM
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I like with branches, #1. It gives it a little more dimension. Some places to add plants in the middle.
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Wow, thanks everyone for the quick response! Branches it is. Going with a modified Branch1 photo.

No frogs for this tank - it's my 1st and I am tying my hand at construction and plants for now. Maybe in the future but still have a lot to learn about them.

Will update with pictures once the branches are in.

Thanks again!
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I do like the background and as well the branches. The trick to these 12x12x18 is trying to make the background seem small than it already is . I feel like you accomplish that. Once you add plants it will give it more depth. Dont use big broms. Go with small ones and it will reinforce what im trying to say. If i didnt read that it was a 12x12x18, i would of assume it was bigger. Overall good work.

What frogs are you putting in there? i would assume thumbnails.
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Thanks Chris! No Frogs planned at this time for this tank. Maybe in the future.

This is more of a chance to learn about tank set ups. It is a really small area and I do plan on using only small sized plants in the set up and working with Mike to get a few plants after I return from travels over the next 2 weeks.

I knew I was taking a chance on the 3 sided background but tried to keep the walls thin to give more open space in the middle as well as the sides walls only 1/2 covered.

Time will tell if I can pull this off!

Any suggestions for Brooms that stay small?
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Old 06-17-2012, 11:17 AM
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Any suggestions for Brooms that stay small?
I like Neoregelia lilliputiana alot, I think that's the smallest Neoregelia sp. there is, but i might be wrong on that one. There's a hybrid of N.lilliputiana and N. schultesiana "Fireball" that I find verry appealing.
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I wanted to say thank you for everyone that weighed in on added the branches, I did and am very happy with the final look. I was finally able to set up the filter system and temporary light. Here is the latest shots of the tank with water and ABG mix added. I'll play around with adding plants today or Wednesday but need to do a bit more planning on where they will go.

Right now I have a PAR38 80 degree bulb over the tank and an Eheim 2211 for the filter. I may need to bump it up to a rena xp1 I have sitting around as the height is at the top end for the little Eheim to pull the water up from the bottom. Though, it seems to be working for now.

I now see why this hobby is so addictive! It's been fun setting it up and I have not even added plants!





I have a few emersed aquatic plants that will be added to the marginal areas of the wood:
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This is a great website.

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also, for emersed / submerged plants, check out aquabid.com, you can get some nice bundles of anubias and crypts and java fern for not too expensive
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or PM hydrophyte, he has cool plants for good prices and knows what would be appropriate for whatever part of your tank
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Default Re: New Set up - Need advice Please

Thanks guys, I'll check them out.
@Winstonamc - Hydrophyte is great to work with, I have a Riparium as well and most everything came from him. He's been great to deal with and very very helpful!

I have a few plants I've been collecting but due to the size of this tank need to stay with small/mini plants and last I spoke with him, he only had larger size plants. But it's been a while and worth contacting him again. He's always got something cool up his sleeve and his builds are amazing.

I planted a few plants I had on had and will post pictures soon.
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The branches definitely need to be put in
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