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Old 05-01-2012, 08:07 AM
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Hey guys!

Its time to redesign my tree frog tank.
My old background in this tank looked like this



But the construction was fail. The water from the waterfall was spilling outside the planned area and washed the coco fibers and also filled one of the pots with water and made it unusable. The pots themselves were too big and ate too much space and i couldnt add enough plants, so the time has come 2nd try

The viv is 96 litres european style tank 40cm long/40cm wide/ 60cm high.


Here are some awesomly drawn sketches of what the final result should look like (paint ftw ):


and top view:


Since egg crate was impossible for me to find it around here in Bulgaria i was forced to use this thing to make my false botton construction:


Found it in Mr.Bricolage and i believe it is used to squeeze the painting roller and i believe it served the purpose i toke it for:


What you see on the picture will be the main land area, then i attached one mini ramp a bit lower next to it



As you can see there is no cover and that is because ill add my water feature there. The pump will be hidded inside and the top is planned to be removable so i can have easy access to the pump if needed.

Then i began to cut styrofoam for the sides of the tank, because i dont want to use the gearscore directly to the glass, cause it will be pain to clean it if i decide to redesign the tank again





The construction is now covered with mesh and i am working over the waterfall platform. Pics to be added later
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:11 PM
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Some minor updates

I covered the construction with mesh and played with the waterfeature platform.

I toke a piece of plexiglass, heated it with mini torch and curve in the desire form. This will be the waterfall section.



I found a nice rock, added 2 smaller ones to the sides and voila, the "bed" in the beginning of the future mini river is done Behind the rocks i made small construction from fibran and styrofoam - from there the water will flow and for base i used another plane of fiber.



Then i stuck those 3 pieces together and siliconed small rocks and sand to them, thats the result:



Now ill have to add gearscore to the fibran construction at the back end and then cut it to add more naturalistic look.

I also begun to add gearscore to the background, so the great waiting begins

I am still wondering what to use on the background... to silicone coco fiber or teracol. If i chose teracol can i add coco fibers to it and cover the background or ill have to cover the background with teracol and then glue the cocos ?
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:44 PM
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rofl what gear score am i talking about in the prev post... Great Stuff is what i ment lol.

So its been 48h and the GS is completely dry. After cutting and carving this is what i came up with:



And one close up of the waterfall


Still wondering what technic to use for covering it. I think ill try with teracol + coco fiber tho
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:26 PM
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Nice idea with the substitute eggcrate.

Looking nice - keep up the good work!
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Love the look of this build! Will you have access to the pump that operates your waterfall? It may be a good idea to make it servicable in case something needs attention in regards to the pump. I can't wait to see the final result!

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Old 05-05-2012, 06:11 PM
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Yup, the whole waterfall platform is removable. Today i bought coco-fiber and teracol and tommorow the construction is about to get new guise
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Nice job. I like the rock work you did on the waterfall.
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I chosed the teracol over silicone, but the result is not what i've expect it to be. At many places the coco-fibers didnt stuck to the teracol, but it might appear as good effect, like rocks showing from the peat.





Any thoughts and suggestions?
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I think it looks wonderful! I agree, the places the peat didn't stick gives it an appealing effect! If it bothers you though, you could paint on a moss mix, or tack some java moss to the places that are too bare for your liking. Keep us posted, I am enjoying watching this come together!

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Old 05-08-2012, 08:25 PM
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Thanks JBear!

I dont think java will manage out there, because there will be no rain system and it will not be constantly wet. I expect the waterfall to be enough to keep humidity at ~70% tho. But once i find some free time i'll take a walk in the forest to collect some local mosses and try to acclimatise them in the palu.
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Short video of the 1st waterfall test

Paludarium waterfall construction test - YouTube
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Hey guys!
The palu is almost done. I am adjusting the plants placing atm, but i have a question. Im aware that pine is not to be used in wet environments, but what about just small piece of pine bark to attach 1 orchid?
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Idk with amphibians or humid environments, but pine or any wood from that family should not be used with snakes at all....as i said im not sure about vivariums with frogs//lizards but i would stay away from it to be safe, especially if its just for an orchid mount..
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I'm pretty sure pine can't be used at all.


"If you are going to be adding any wood to your terrarium, it is important not to use any member of pine. The resins from pine are toxic to poison dart frogs."
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I see, thanks for the answers. The problem is that cork bark is not easy to be found around here.

I will post pictures right away after im done. Decided to try flyingSquirrel's method of making fake roots, we'll see what will happen.

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I see, thanks for the answers. The problem is that cork bark is not easy to be found around here.

I will post pictures right away after im done. Decided to try flyingSquirrel's method of making fake roots, we'll see what will happen.
where are you located? I know Petsmart has cork bark but it is a bit costly.
I got my 2 pieces from a pet store owner. I was like how much for this cork and he told me to just take it and I bought another piece off him for like $2
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Since egg crate was impossible for me to find it around here in Bulgaria i was forced to use this thing to make my false botton construction:
Have you tried an orchid supply store for corkbark? Are there any local orchid clubs or greenhouses? Maybe it isn't too expensive to have some shipped in from Greece or Romania? Good luck!
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There are few kennels (not sure if this is the right word) around my city, but i dont know exactly what kind of plants they grow and i havent seen broms/orchids attached to bark on the flower shops, only in pots. And tbh i need too small piece to order outside Bulgaria, it just does not worth it.

I havent heard for orchid clubs either, there are few forums for plant enthusiasts tho, ill ask for some info there.

Today i couldnt manage to get to the shop in time to get my soil so the planting is delayed for tomorrow... hopefully.

BTW currently I have coco fiber, river sand and sphagnum moss peat. Would a mix of those be enough or should i w8 for the eco soil?

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Well, i guess this is pretty much it





Top view





The plants so far are orchid Phalaenopsis mini, Broms Aechmea and Guzmania, spathyphilum, Fittonia and i dont know the name of the one with the big circle type leafs.

The syngonium to the left is a bit big for the size of the tank and i'll wait for it to acclimatise, before i cut some leave to make it grow a bit lower. I will also try to attach the Phalaenopsis orchid to cork bark to the background, because it is in a pot atm which can be used for another brom or something. Ficus pumila oak leaf vig is also about to be added, i got few cuts from a plant and waiting for it to grow some roots before i plant it. Also the fake roots/lianas are undergoing development.

Any suggestions for adding/removing plants or rearanging their positions are welcome.
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There were some minor changes in the palu






I moved the orchid, covered the roots with peat and sphagnum and attached it to the background. The time will show is it can live like that
The Aechmeas did not survive as i expected so the guzmania went one step lower to free the lighter pot for Drosera capensis. The lightning is 2x11W energy saver bulbs 2700k and 6000k. Not enough light goes inside the tank tho, but when i make the lid ill add light-reflective foil so all the light goes down to the plants.
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