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Old 10-07-2010, 01:30 AM
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Dang! This is awesome!
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Old 10-07-2010, 05:29 AM
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Ummmm, yeah sooo.... HOLY SHIT THAT'S SWEET!
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your tree roots look great, im really looking foward to your final results when they happen, good luck with the whole build process!
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Old 10-09-2010, 11:25 AM
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Tremendous build so far!
So how long do you intend to stay in that apartment? I assume your tank dimensions account for the front door width...
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Old 10-09-2010, 02:02 PM
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you could've sprinkled some peat moss on top of the paint while it was drying to get some more texture on it or a more natural color. But don't worry too much about it. Moss or plants will start growing over it and make it look like a real root in no time
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Old 10-11-2010, 12:32 AM
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This thing is insaine! Absolutely AWESOME! I keep putting off building a huge tank like that myself and doing the fake tree...But between yours and a couple others on here I have been reading this weekend, I think I am going to get the supplies this week and attempt it. But awesome work! Subscribed and cant wait to see more!
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Old 10-17-2010, 04:41 AM
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Thank you all so much for your comments and encouragement. They are much appreciated!

In response to a few of your questions -

rcteem - I'm actually still not sure what I want to do in terms of inhabitants. I know I'm putting a bunch of fish in the aquatic portion but I haven't yet decided what's going in the emersed portion. To begin with I think I'm just going to try to get some nice flora going.

Smenigoz - we're only going to be in this apartment until next summer (admittedly not the best time to begin such a huge project, but I wanted something to keep myself entertained). I actually wanted to do an even wider tank but was limited by my door width. The tank is 28" (about 31" when factoring in the plumbing on the back) and my front door is 36" so I do have some clearance when the time comes to move. Given how heavy this thing is, I'm already dreading that day.
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Old 10-17-2010, 04:47 AM
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Ok time for another update - probably not quite as exciting as the last one. I went ahead and got some of of the buff cement colorant and was able to blend a much nicer brown color. After adding a little extra brown shading to the roots I'm much happier with how they look (I think the originally color was actually more purple than it appeared in my photos).

I've also covered the walls of the emersed portion with Ecoweb. The Ecoweb is really rough and cutting it up was a bit of a pain but I think it worked out pretty well in the end - here's how it looks:



I thought this stuff was supposed to be black but it's actually brown (quite similar to the color of my roots). It means there's a little less contrast with the roots but it does look more natural. Hopefully it will all be covered in moss/plants anyway so it shouldn't matter. Once I've got the water circulation system running I'm also going to incorporate a little bit of clay/peat/moss mixture into some parts of the background to hide the Ecoweb seams and provide a little bit of organic planting medium.

You may notice that I've also added in my drip lines at the top of the tank. As I had planned earlier, I used two lengths of 3/4" PVC (one for the back and one for the side) with holes drilled every inch or so. This should hopefully provide a nice even flow of water down the Ecoweb. I painted the PVC with two coats of black tinted Drylok so it wouldn't stand out so much.

I've also done a bunch of work with the plumbing/filtration system but I'm not going to post photo updates of that because it's probably not particularly interesting to most of the people on this board.

Well, this thing is pretty much ready to be water-tested. I'm just waiting for a few strong friends to come over to help me heave this behemoth onto the stand. I'm pretty confident with my construction so far, so I'm taking a gamble and moving this thing into its final location for the first fill. Hopefully the next update will be report good news rather than disaster!
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how deep will the water be
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Around 14" deep (about 1" below the top of the front glass). The total volume will be around 100g.
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If it was a few inches more you could get discus
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Old 10-18-2010, 09:34 PM
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Looks good! any idea on what plants your going to put in there?

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looks like a great candidate for several killie fish or hatchets or small tetra schools. I had a paludarium setup very similar like this but half of your size with several neons and hatchet fish.

It's looking real good right now and watching your post changes my way of constructing tree roots (they're awesome in your tank). But also i'm sure you've considered this - if you're gonna put dart frogs in there stick with aboreal species and acoount semi emeresed growing plants like cryptocornes, hygrophillia, tiger lotus or dwarf lillies and even aubias to cover all areas where your animals may fall off the tree limbs from above. those plants i listed are very few of what can grow both in and out of water except the lilles. I've always kept it as a principal for all my terrestrial animals to keep them from drowning but i'm sure you alreadywere aware of this and had plans. I'm subscribed and anxious to see the fish and plants in there!
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amazing details on the root system, great job!!
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Old 10-29-2010, 10:54 PM
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I'm not running the dripwall yet. As per Ed's suggestion, I'm giving the clay a little more time to set up so it doesn't all get washed down into the aquarium.
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I picked two types of selaginella from a local nursery, separated them out and stuck them into the background in various places. Hopefully they take. I've got some riccia arriving next week. I'd be glad to hear other planting suggestions. I'm looking for some sort of creeping plant. If anyone in the area has any cuttings of oak leaf creeping fig or small-leafed peperomia (or other plant that you think would work well) please let me know!
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Outstanding!!! Can't wait to see it filled with critters
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Very very impressive. You did an awesome job on this. I can't wait to see it planted fully and overgrown.
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Ah, very very good! This is going to be a great tank!
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This is an amazing tank! Great job on the roots as well as the overall setup! Man, I need a 300 gallon tank in my life.
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Old 11-03-2010, 04:49 PM
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you need ARCHER FISH! I think it would be awesome to see them shooting water droplets at bugs hanging over the water!
I really like this whole construction. It definitely looks professional.



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Old 11-03-2010, 05:13 PM
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It would really cool to have a fish that could take advantage of the emersed space above the water.

I've definitely thought of archers - I think they would look awesome in this setup. Unfortunately, most of the commonly available species do best under brackish conditions. There are some freshwater variants and populations but they are hard to find. I'm keeping my eyes open.

Another cool option would be splashing tetras. These guys jump out of the water and lay their eggs on overhanding leaves and the male then flicks droplets of water onto them to keep them moist until they hatch. Very cool, but I'm a little worried they might be a little too small to hang with my other fish, and they also don't seem to be commonly available in the US.
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your thinking of copella arnoldi splashing fish. They would be a great option for broad leaf plants near the water and I know what you mean about it being difficult to find freshwater raised archer fish. But I've seen the splashers available for sale every once in a while, it really depends on the luck of what your local fish store has.
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I forgot they prefer brackish water. If it was going to be an all brackish tank, it would scream mudskipperes to me.



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If you cant find the splashing tetras, you could always go with neon tetras. Im always impressed when I see a huge tank with a large school of a single species of tetra.
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Old 11-04-2010, 05:23 AM
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I think it needs to be brackish! mudskippers and fiddler crabs and archer fish



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While that would be a really cool setup I think I'd have a hard time with plants under brackish conditions. Plus, dealing with salt creep with this much flowing water would probably be a royal pain.

I just finished moving my pack of clown loaches into the tank so I guess it's going to be fresh water. I picked up a few more from a guy who was breaking down his tank so I think I now have a total of 11. Once they've all settled in I think they're going to look great.
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Can't beat a shoal of cardinal tetras.

What aquatic plants will you be going for?

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I've currently got some anubias nana, java fern (regular, narrow leaf and trident) and a little bit of bolbitis heudelotii. If the bolbitis does well I may try and get a little more. I'm mostly sticking with rhizomous plants that can be mounted to the branches and won't get dug up by the fish. I would like to get some sort of dwarf water lilly/lotus.
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What's that I hear? Sounds like a bandwagon, better jump on.

Looks incredible! Can't wait to see it with fish. Are you planning on doing any aquatic plants? EDIT: Whoops, guess I didn't read far enough down. Any pictures of it currently with plants and fish?
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I've always wanted to do a brackish mangrove tank. That would be sick! I saw a mudskipper at a local feed/pet store. Crazy little animals. Super territorial.
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Deeb, you said you were looking for plant suggestions....Im not a plant expert especially when it comes to aquariums, however I have some Bacopa vines in my viv and they are doing great. They grow submerged, then when they reach the surface they will throw our roots and climbs up the background. In reality my tank is too small since it grows quite fast, but in your tank I think it could look great. And as a bonus, they throw out lots of little white flowers. Check out page 10 of my build thread for pictures of the vines/flowers if you are interested...

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Here are a few updates after the initial round of planting. The plants so far are:

submerged - anbias nana, java fern 'narrow', java fern 'trident' and a little bit of bolbitis heudelotii.

emersed - riccia covering most of the ecoweb, a tiny bit of christmas moss, two types of selaginella, white rabbit's foot fern, pteris fern, pepromia 'mini melons' and three neos (not sure on the IDs).

It's only been a week or so, but so far none of the plants have really taken off. I think the tank really needs more foliage so I'm on the lookout for other plants that will work well in this setup.

Also, as you can tell from the pics, my fan system isn't quite able to keep the glass clear. I hoping for it to be a pure air circulation system but that didn't really do anything to de-fog the glass so I have some small openings in the top for ventilation. I may replace the current 50mm fans with some 80mm fans to more more air.

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Closeups of the water area (believe it or not, there are about a dozen fish hiding in the shadows there):




Closeups of the top part (notice all the water streaming down the background):






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Ok, the next NC local's meet is going to have to be at Deeb's house so we can see this tank!
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WOW looking awesome! I reckon a school of about 5 neon tetra's would compliment that landscaping nicely
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I keep looking at this viv every day, and have decided that I need to do one like it just for archer fish, and maybe some frogs. I like it more and more every time I see it.



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Archers would be cool in a tank like that!
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Btw, I found this thread while doing a google search for epiweb backgrounds and thought you might like it:
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Nice tank thats just...... I'm speechless that is so cool, and are you gonna put frogs in there?

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