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Old 02-28-2010, 09:11 PM
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I would love to! I am afraid I won´t have any time left - enjoying my own tank every day

The dripping system is meant for gardens, greenhouses etc. It has been used for vivariums as well, esp for Chameleons, but not very often (as far as I know). Most froggers here prefer high pressure misting systems in stead of mimicking rain.
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This a pretty impressive undertaking! I look forward to seeing your progress and picking up some ideas.
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That rain system is awesome. How much pressure is the pump that will be running that? Will you use some type of ball valve to controll the water flow to the dripping heads. Also will the water that's dripping come from the sump, or a seperate resivor?
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hi Nick,

it is just a regular 1300 US gallons / hour pond pump. The system is made to work with the regular watertap pressure, but works on these kinds of pumps as well. The distance between the pump and the actual dripping points is about 6´ height, so I needed quite a strong pump.

As it is designed for tap water, this system works aquarium water equally well - no need for RO water like in the high pressure and fogging systems.
I will place the pump in a filtering mat to avoid particles getting in the system.

The pump is placed in the sump beneath the tank.
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Old 03-01-2010, 08:44 PM
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As it is designed for tap water, this system works aquarium water equally well - no need for RO water like in the high pressure and fogging systems.
I will place the pump in a filtering mat to avoid particles getting in the system.

The pump is placed in the sump beneath the tank.
Are you worried about ammonia levels in the water burning the plants/herps?
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I am not really worried, but some additional filtering (the entire hill stream system works as a filter) won´t do any harm I suppose.

Would I not have been able to pick up a used biological filter with pump for little money, I would have done without (my present hill stream tank has no additional filtering and seems to have no problems).
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WOW, this build has got my full attention. Nice work, looking forward to following your progress.
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very nice concept cant wait to see how it turns out.
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O.O
There is no smiley/emote in exsistance that can show my jealousy/anticipation to see this finished.

I'd Love to make a viv like this someday.... *sigh*
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I assume you would have posted pictures if you had new ones, but any type of update on this? It looks amazing so far.
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Old 03-23-2010, 09:54 AM
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I have been doing a few not so visible things last weeks (like glueing PVC) - I will post some pictures tomorrow of the most recent devellopments! Stay tuned...
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Oh we are all "tuned" and ready for updates
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Old 03-24-2010, 12:01 PM
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As promised, some pictures of what is going on (not that much actually...)

First of all I glued the PVC beneath the tank and put epoxy on the floor of the RO department and the department to be used for breeding the frog food.

I also hang the fans (they are hanging to avoid vibrations) and made some mesh wire frames.







Mesh wire glued on top of the ventilation holes and painted the sides white for better light reflection:




The first pieces of glass are glued in with silicone (I accidently changed the orientation of the pieces in the corner ... I had to cut them loose and fix it again this morning):







While testing the new fans I felt that they do move a lot of are, but not really in one direction - not really a windlike effect. This fan would:



But, well, not really suitable for use inside the tank. It will have to work behind the tank's back!



Made a hole on the right side. I can choose to put a mesh wire frame and the fan there or a piece of matt glass to let daylight in.



The front glass pieces are ready to get glued, but first a few pieces of epoxy will have to dry. To be continued later this week...


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It looks great! I know I sound a little greedy here, but I'm ready for more! ;-)
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Just glued in some most pieces of glass:










Total results (well, there is some more work to do ). Looks better in daylight or with the final lights installed!

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Wow that is awsomne! the journal is well kept to thank you for such through explanations.
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Update!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Update!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 03-31-2010, 02:59 PM
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Ok, ok - here goes!

Some more work done: the first water is there! No leaks discovered!




I added some pieces of wood to give some impression - of course all will be built on top of a rocky river bed (well, sort of).






So, the first 4 inches of water are there.



No more water untill next day!




I made some extra tubes to be placed in the PVC sinks, enabling me to decide on water level. The 50mm tube is connected to the standard 40mm by a rubber ring that can be adjusted for fine tuning.



As soon as the one pump worked, I discoverd that the blue filter mat stops to much water. I will replace it with something more open (but still with a fine enough mesh to avoid small fishes going down the tube...)





The pump in the left hand corner gives quite some water - that will make for a nice extra waterfall.




I have now only one pump at the right hand side (will add three from my present tank). That is really some water coming out!





A total shot:



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So, now I have got time to work on my roofmate foam - grout - epoxy experiments...
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its coming together and it really looks great.
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A small update about the construction as well as some pictures of a few pieces of wood I bought.


A redirection of the waterfall in the left hand side of the tank:




Pieces of foam to create some land parts:




My attempt of creating fake rock. Tile grout, some colouring and once finished a thin layer of epoxy (the last part not done yet). Technically it isn´t that difficult, getting believable results is!












Nice try, but the rock in the front corner is too large... (the straight character of the pieces behind will be visually broken by some real rocks and pieces of wood)



I am working on something fitting in better.

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In Deventer at Green Nature (a Dutch vendor) I bought some awesome pieces of wood, among those this tree (unfortunatley to large to use in one piece):




Once put in the tank (of course just to get some ideas):



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oh, HELL YES! those trees look awesome in there! I am really liking the way this is turning out.



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Incredible! I bet your having a ton of fun creating all that. Is the waterway connected or broken by land sections?

If connected it would allow larger species for the aquatic area, if broken it would allow seperation of animals that may live in the same conditions but may not be compatible.
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Lots of fun indeed!

The waterways will all be connected, so I will keep some shoals of fish as well as some more territory guys. Size will all be rather small - that makes the tank look even larger
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This is starting to look incredible. I wish we have availability to tree and liana wood like that here in the US! care to share more about the seller?
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No problem, that is Patrick Temminck from Green Nature in Deventer, the Netherlands. Green-Nature (Nederlands). His shop only started a few months ago and the website is by no means complete - but knows how to design viv interiors!
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Looks awesome man, keep up the great work! Love those rocks!
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I like that the trees will not all be against the back of the enclosure. It adds a lot of depth, and obviously gives hides.
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one word - FANTASTIC !
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amazing this is starting to come together great i always love seeing this thread updated!
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In a way I hate seeing these European Builds done.

It rubs the fact in our faces that great pieces of Wood and Accessories like Frankenstein Vine, Sumba Vine, and Lianna Vine are so readily available in Europe, while most of us in the states are stuck with cheesy fake crap.

Yea I know We can search around on the Internet and find a few selections but I want to walk into the store and select my stuff personally.

The Manager at the PetSmart was surprised to find that they started selling their WACKYVINE Bird Perches suddenly.. The Reptile Girl explained that I found them in the Bird Section and not in the Reptile Section and I buy them. Before me the Store was open 6 months and not one had sold. They moved them from the Bird section into the reptile section and now they can't keep them stocked. I kind of wish they would move them back so only I know where they are at and get first choice.
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I have to say that is not hard to get some nice wood here in the Netherlands, but this tree is quite exceptional. Most pet shops here have only very small pieces of wood to fit into small fish tanks. Don´t know about the rest of Europe, but I suppose that is harder to get good stuff outside the main urban centres.

As for my tank - I have been working on it again (once you get in a flow...) So here just some pictures of the rocks and my first attempts to create the rockwork for the waterfall in the left hand side.


The new pieces of rock to fit in the corner (with some other pieces of the ´river bank´):




Some pieces of foam to create the waterfall:



Too close to the tree, have to make it less deep:




Some more surroundings



What do you think? I know it is hard to see and interpretate from a picture, but I hope it makes some sense.




As seen from the nearest seat:




The ´rocks´ put in place:



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Nice... I am jealous
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Alrighty... I'm subscribed.

Looking great!

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All I can only say wow
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Just an update in pictures - or ´how to learn to hate rocks´...












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it's coming to life!! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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Uh, no, that is just me in the picture
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