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Clintonsparsons89 12-27-2019 04:42 PM

Off-the-shelf European vivariums?
 
Is there anywhere to buy pre-fabricated European style terrariums? I dont want to make my own.

Exo-terra is nice, but I was hoping for something a little nicer.

RobJersey 12-27-2019 05:04 PM

Re: Off-the-shelf European vivariums?
 
The only us suppliers I know of are protean (look them up for info on reputation)

The other option is insitu ecosystems I own 2 and they are nice systems, but premium priced.

Tijl 12-27-2019 05:21 PM

You can try and contact dutch rana, mayebe they ship overseas

Dane 12-28-2019 03:55 PM

Re: Off-the-shelf European vivariums?
 
Where are you located, as shipping these is a risky business? You aren't likely to find any Euro vivs "on a shelf", but there are a few builders here in the states that fabricate them. Here are a couple that I built recently:
https://www.dendroboard.com/forum/ga...52737280_n.jpg
https://www.dendroboard.com/forum/ga...s/big_viv1.jpg

Chlorophile 12-28-2019 07:50 PM

Re: Off-the-shelf European vivariums?
 
I've often wondered what the differences are between Exo Terra (for example) and "European-style" tanks. Still being fairly new to the hobby, I haven't seen tanks in person except for Zoo Meds and Exo Terra in stores.

Are the doors also hinged or are they sliding?

I see the tank in this photo has a mostly-glass top, which is nice. Is that more standard than all-mesh?

What's the purpose of the ledge built-in to the front by the doors? I imagine the divider is still to allow water retention if one is building a paludarium or for building a false bottom, but why the ledge and that space between the divider and the front panel?

Since Exo Terra's parent company is European (I think), how come those tanks have made it into the U.S. market but not other European designs? Just wondering.

Philsuma 12-28-2019 07:59 PM

Re: Off-the-shelf European vivariums?
 
True Euro-tanks are always front opening / vented and have the internal glass or equiv sloped bottom for drainage.

RobJersey 12-28-2019 10:55 PM

Re: Off-the-shelf European vivariums?
 
Dane shows a perfect example of euro style. If you can get glass cheap enough they usually run about 130-150 for a 18x22. Unfortunately in my area, nj / pa I seem to be getting the "I dont want to do it" quotes of 300+.. Id really love to bang out 12 of these to have a clean uniform look in my frog room. Hell, Id pay 200 a piece even.

Thekla 12-29-2019 07:46 AM

Re: Off-the-shelf European vivariums?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobJersey (Post 3079432)
Dane shows a perfect example of euro style.

Yes, it's a perfect example for a European style enclosure but not necessarily one for dart frogs. Those have - as Philsuma said - the sloped bottom for drainage.

Here's mine that was customed built for my frogs.
https://sdthumbs.ui-static.net/t/mc/...00&height=1000

@Chlorophile
European style enclosures have mostly sliding doors, but there're also some with guillotine-style doors where you pull the glass plate in the front upwards to open it. Those are mostly for invertebrates.

And yes, they are also made entirely out of glass with mesh stripes in the front (that's the purpose of the ledge you're asking about) and in the top for ventilation. That causes the chimney effect that is also used with the Exo Terras.

Dane 01-05-2020 10:36 PM

Re: Off-the-shelf European vivariums?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thekla (Post 3079436)
Yes, it's a perfect example for a European style enclosure but not necessarily one for dart frogs. Those have - as Philsuma said - the sloped bottom for drainage.

I prefer a porous drainage media instead of a sloped panel. More room for beneficial bacteria to colonize, and more space for microfauna to occupy.

Clintonsparsons89 03-08-2020 01:34 PM

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