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Old 09-24-2008, 02:45 AM
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Default 20 gallon high build w/pics and questions :)

I thought I would post a couple of pics of my progress here. Hopefully I can get some suggestions.

First off I'm brand new to PDFs.
I have a number of years experience with fresh and saltwater fish and finally made the decision to set up a tank for frogs.

Tank: 20 gallon high
DIY background
False Bottom
Waterfall
28 watt T-5 lighting


The part that worries me the most is the plants/planting.

I'm totally out of my element with that.

Any suggestions on frog types that you feel would be good or suggestions on plants would be appreciated.
..as well as any comments thanks.


Great Stuff and wood...

siliconed w/coco...
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I'm adding substrate and will have pics tomorrow.
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looks good, but that grape wood could cause you trouble if it rots. But that may not happen..
I'm sure others will inform you on their grape would experiences.
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In my experience Grapewood is fine so long as its not kept saturated (i.e., used for a water feature or water/land barrier). I've kept it successfully in 90-100% humidity without incident (although you will get an initial mold bloom that will eventually dissipate).
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looks good, but that grape wood could cause you trouble if it rots.
What I have in there is called mopani wood. It says its not supposed to rot. I hope its okay, I don't want to have to tear it out.
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What I have in there is called mopani wood. It says its not supposed to rot. I hope its okay, I don't want to have to tear it out.
I have used Mopani wood for a while in aquatic environments (fully submerged or just tips of wood sticking out of water) and my oldest piece is about 2 years old. The product has not rotted. The biggest 'gotcha' most people have with this wood is the release of tannins in the water. Before use, it is suggested to soak the wood in a clean bucket and empty the water every 24 hours or so until the water is clear (or close to it).

Your setup is looking awesome!

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The product has not rotted. The biggest 'gotcha' most people have with this wood is the release of tannins in the water.

Your setup is looking awesome!

Jeanie
Good news thanks.

I'm not too worried about tannins. I've had a couple of tetra setups that contained tannin-stained water.

Thanks for the complement. I'm trying to do things slow and right, the first time.

Here's the newest pic w/substrate...
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looks really nice, i might be doing a 20 gallon here shortly...looking foward to it
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Looks good. If those are the fake vines sold at pet stores, I would take them out. They tend to break down over a year or so, and fall apart when they do. They have a bendable, metal core I wouldn't want my frogs exposed to.
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Looks good. If those are the fake vines sold at pet stores, I would take them out. They tend to break down over a year or so, and fall apart when they do. They have a bendable, metal core I wouldn't want my frogs exposed to.
I took them out already, because I didn't like them.

I started to plant, and will have more pics soon.
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I like what you are doing here. I just started my 25 today and it looks similar. I have vines in mine but mine are aquarium air tubing covered with silicone and peat. I think they look pretty natural and match the background. Did you use GS to separate the land from the water feature? Do you think the GS will hold up to the water? Just wondering, I am planning to do the same thing. About the plants, if you will do a search on plants others have used in their vivs, you can find some really good ones. I wrote many of them down and went to Walmart and Lowes and just started buying. Many of the plants I have purchased have been $3.00 or less. I also have some orchids i am planning to put on my vivs once they are up and fully setup.
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Did you use GS to separate the land from the water feature? .
I built a false bottom from eggcrate.

One thing i didn't do howeverwas to let the silicon cure enough in one spot. I had to empty the tank and replace the silicon.

I have to have more patience.




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Hi,
Really like the viv ! is it peat granules and peat dust you've covered the foam with ? and how did you get it to stick to the foam ?
Thanx
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i love using 20 verts for pumilio and thum rios. looks good so far.
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