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does it work??? I am in the process of ordering Sphagnum moss (the happy grower so I'v been told) what kinda moss is best for milkshake... and really buttermilk?? Im asuming its safe? I have done lots of research (general) then I find alot of hints and fun tips... i just dont know if the hints work or not.... any tips on moss?
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My friend Google came up with this:

http://www.walterreeves.com/landscaping ... =15&id=389

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Chemistry-in ... w-moss.htm

Hopefully someone with direct experience will chime in.
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Works fine.
You don't need very much buttermilk, though.

I used about 1/2 cup, and after painting the things I wanted to paint, I had a lot left over. So I sopped it up with spagnum moss and put it on the bottom of the tank. About 48 hours later I had the thickest fluffiest layer of hyphae I've ever made. :P And it gave the viv a strong sour smell-- not awful, but not pleasant.
Eventually I had nice moss, though.
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Default Re: moss milkshake?????????

the most important ?? I have is does the smell go away????
and what kind of moss do you recommend using I am in the process of recieving my spagnum moss but I think i can find carpet moss at home depo.....
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I am an authority in that I've done it once and it worked. A better authority would be someone who has tried lots of ways of doing it.

I also used it in a smaller (Nano!) viv and without adding the soaked sphagnum, there wasn't much odor at all. In the larger one the odor lasted about a week.
Buttermilk is already acidic and sour, it doesn't seem to putrefy like regular milk does, which is perhaps part of the advantage to using it.
My recipe:
buttermilk, perhaps 1/4 cup is fine
moss, I guess about an ounce.

Frappe in a blender for about 10-20 sec.

I was set to water it down, but it was liquid enough.
I applied it immediately.

I used local moss. Since it was mid winter here, I got a small patch from a tropical conservatory.
Any true moss should work fine. I can't vouch for the "mosses" that are actually aquatic plants, such as riccia. Maybe they would work, maybe not.
Do have living green moss, not dried. From dried you might still have thousands of spores that will grow, but take longer.
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I think it sounds like a rather nasty mess. I would buy some moss java, live sphagnum, or the the others. Why have sour milk in your viv?
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Good points, but done in a thin painted layer, it wasn't a nasty mess.

The advantage is: a very small patch of moss can cover a large area fairly quickly and very cheaply. Aledgedly die-back should be less of a problem, since it is starts growing in places where... the growing conditions are favorable.
Also, I was actually covering vertical terra cotta with it, and it was much easier than trying to stick mature moss on.
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That thick mold can become an awesome springtail culture if you seed it.

I like to use half water, half buttermilk, and tropical dicranium pillow moss, and paint the background and wood with it. Sometimes the moss don't grow so great, but usually always get some cool ferns popping up.
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I must say, I've tried the "moss slurry" and I didn't do so great with it. I spread it on the cocoa bedding as well as on some Java wood and such. I ended up with an insane carpet of mold. I ended up cleaning the stuff out. BUT, are you guys saying you leave the mold go and the true moss will come from that??? Also, how thick should your 'shake' be?
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