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Old 08-23-2016, 09:39 PM
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Nice, do you currently have or plan on having an inhabitants?
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Nice, do you currently have or plan on having an inhabitants?
i dont have inhabitants at this point, since its my first viv i first wanted to get a good understanding how to make the plants thrive. im currently working a bit with the raspiviv setup from nate to control the climate and am quite happy with the results so far.
i would like to get some inhabitants in the future but i dont like the short feeding requirements. i also have zero experience with fly cultures so that would definitely be next on the things to study before getting some frogs or any other animal.

if i upgrade to a bigger tank i would like some inhabitants and would build the tank accordingly so it resembles the home of them as best as possible.

so you see im not yet sure if there ever will be inhabitants or not
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Old 08-25-2016, 02:04 AM
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Looks amazing! How did you do that picture effect where it looks 3D?


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thanks! i take 2 pictures that are displaced a little bit in a direction (horizontal/vertical/depth) and then use a functionality of google photo to create a animation. its the same as a animated gif which you can most likely find apps for. et voila 3d effect on picture
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a little update, i will get some new plants tomorrow so will do an other update soon

the moss continues to grow like crazy


some mushrooms are growing from time to time that give a nice contrast with their white color


some isopods chillin on top of the back wall


my first orchid (Pleurothallis allenii) is going to bloom soon ::hurray::


and i removed a huge fern that was covering the whole middle section, i will most likely remove the big one on the right side as well for some smaller plants that i get tomorrow, but will see how that will look.
ah yes i also removed the creeping jew and marcgravia umbellata because i have some other idea what i want to do with the plants

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Old 10-08-2016, 07:19 PM
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got the new plants yesterday and was doing some planting

heterocentron elegans
she came in a bad state but recovered fast and looking beautiful right now, gona be interesting how well she grows.





orchids (left: maxillaria sophronitis, right: leptotes bicolor)
these were in bad shape but look a lot happier now, but with orchids it always takes some time till it shows how they like it so i will see how it goes with these 2.



selaginella kraussiana
i expected this one to be a bit bigger:O its almost moss like looking if dense enoug, none the less i like it


Pleurothallis allenii
one of the older orchids blooms for the first time this is the first time for a orchid.


and some bigger shots of the viv




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Great tank! Compliments
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Great tank! Compliments
thanks a lot, i try to do the best with the limited space i have

i had to pull a bag of the java moss off the back wall, it was getting out of control and i think the shorter moss will work a lot better. the moss strands already got to about 10cm lenght




i replanted some of the smaller moss where i removed all the java stuff, so hope that grows well up there. kinda looks nice to see some of the background again for a change
maybe i will see if i can keep some spots moss free so it adds some extra contrast to the tank

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Old 11-02-2016, 07:23 AM
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Hello. Nice tank.

This is just to report that images don't show.
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Old 11-02-2016, 09:14 AM
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Hello. Nice tank.

This is just to report that images don't show.
hm strange, they show for me... then again ive always had problems linking images from google so maybe there is some permissions thing going on so you cant see them:/ since posts can not be edited theres nothing i can do against bad links
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Old 11-02-2016, 09:33 AM
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Yeah, I see the long links; should be like you say, a permission issue. Thanks anyway.
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can you see those?



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Old 11-02-2016, 10:53 AM
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Yes!
Fine, thanks.

Congratulations again for the beautiful tank.
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Yes!
Fine, thanks.

Congratulations again for the beautiful tank.
hm that is interresting, i just opend the images in a new tab and used the link i got there instead of the direct link to the image in the gallery.. now i just need to remember this for the next time

thanks for the feedback on the missing images
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its been a while since my last update, so here are some pics from today






2 bromeliads are dying after spawning a couple of young ones. is this something that happens when the pupps are not removed? i kinda like the look that it adds to the whole thing


heterocentron elegans grows yellowins shriveled leaves, i have not found out yet why this happens, so if you have any idea what can be the cause of this i would be happy to know.




Microgramma reptans fern is spreading everywhere and creates tons of side shoots, it combines really nicely when its growing in moss and its leaves tend to stay small (3-4cm).
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Everything looks so lush and gorgeous in there! You chose a really nice variety of textures for your tank.

Yes, it's normal for the mother plant to die after putting out a few pups. Some will hang on for a while, others go fairly soon after pupping.
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I like how the background was done...The tank is amazing! Looks like a piece of the rainforest
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Old 02-25-2017, 11:18 PM
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Hm do you still see the latest images? Looks like google took those down again... This bedding from them is total garbage, it only works when stars align ...
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That's funny. Just this morning, the pics were there, and they are just little squares, now.
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some broms are dying but everything else is doing really well, i want to trim some things out a little bit and take one plant out that i have no idea what it is.
had a bit a drier phase the last couple of weeks and most of the plants seemed to thrive more than in a wetter climate (mid 80% instead of mid 90%) this is mainly caused due to the new sensor not giving so many random spikes which triggered a short burst of mist. (which was kinda cool)














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The tank looks fantastic

The plant in the foreground with the red flowers, what species is that? And more importantly, will you trade/sell me a cutting once it gets warmer?
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The tank looks fantastic

The plant in the foreground with the red flowers, what species is that? And more importantly, will you trade/sell me a cutting once it gets warmer?
its Gloxinia sylvatica and she comes from Bolivia and Peru, as far as ive been able to find out from higher mountain regions.
Araflora, exotic flora & more - Sinningia sylvatica 'Seemannia')

if you are somewhere in Europe we can probably do some trading, the plant is shooting in all directions at the moment and i expect it to overgrow the tank this summer more reasons to upgrade to a bigger tank this year
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Hey man that came out really good. I like how nature it looks. You did a really good job. I wish some of my builds came out like that.


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Hey man that came out really good. I like how nature it looks. You did a really good job. I wish some of my builds came out like that.


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thanks, it took quite a bit of growing and reorganizing plants to get where it is now, just give yours some time and do what you like. i also think it always looks a bit better on pictures than in real, so that might also give a bit a hyped impression^^

i removed a couple of plants and moved some around to lighten the tank up a bit from its overgrown state.
i keep all the plants i remove from the tank in a container in case i feel that i want to use them again

there is still the unknown fern that i want to remove eventually but at the moment have no place to keep it so i will let it grow a bit more, maybe it turns out that it works out great for a specific look at some point.

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i increased the misting a bit to get some green back into the moss and stimulate some more growth, so now its like 2 times a day about 15s misting and once a week or so i do a 1-2min misting.



the microgramma ferns are crawiling all over the tank and starts to look really nice in some places


and some other close up of a moss patch (getting super dense)
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Old 11-05-2017, 10:24 AM
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another update, its nice how the gloxinia starts to creep all over the ground area, this will be perfect for the big tank



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Looks fantastic! Though I think in some of the previous photos, when the moss was less intrusive, it looked better. There must be a happy medium!
Very lush though, and the kind of viv most of us would love to have - have you decided on inhabitants?

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Looks fantastic! Though I think in some of the previous photos, when the moss was less intrusive, it looked better. There must be a happy medium!
Very lush though, and the kind of viv most of us would love to have - have you decided on inhabitants?

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yeah the moss is very intrusive and i started to grow some smaller/slower growing moss which at some point hopefully will dominate the moss areas but i also need a lot of wetness to grow that and therefore the fast-growing one is also spreading like crazy
but you can see that its yellowing quite a bit and i believe this is due to a reduction in the misting, so yea i try to find that sweet-spot but i also believe it varies through the yearly temperature/humidity changes we have here.

i pulled this out just after taking the last pics to make space for the smaller moss



as for the inhabitants, the main goal of this tank was to get a good understanding of the plant ecosystem and climate to be able to provide the best possible environment to potential inhabitants.
at this point i do not feel that i have the "time" to care about inhabitants since that is quite a bit of responsibility.
on the other hand i also plan to upgrade to a quite big sized tank and give this one to a friend who certainly would like to keep some frogs (he is also running a big aquarium so is already committed with the feeding and so on).
and with the bigger tank i will certainly look at potential inhabitants again but probably would want to decide before building it what they would need.

maybe my contribution can be more on the habitat side of the hobby and i can inspire people to build a nice place for their frogs (or other animals) even if my tank might not be the best example of a natural frog habitat.

btw i also collect a progress album with only front pictures of the tank and there are quite a bit of interesting changes that happend visually by the different plants and amount of them and there are a couple of things that i just see from my own tank that i would try to combine in a new one.

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So cool seeing the growth over the two years. A lucky friend to be getting that tank!

How many species of plant do you reckon are in there now, and were you picking them specific to one particular region of the world or just going for what looked best?

I hope if and when you get round to building this bigger tank you do a similar build log! You're right in saying it's inspiring others to make beautiful habitats for their inhabitants - certainly fuelled me up! What do you feel is the most significant thing you've learned over the whole process?

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Hi kromar,

I saw some posts from you on raspiviv. I am also trying to get a plant tank done before I try a "finalviv" for frogs. My goal is to automate with rasp and arduino as much as possible, too. How does the DHT22 works over the years, especially under that extreme humidity conditions?
And which lighting and misting system do you use, if I may ask?
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So cool seeing the growth over the two years. A lucky friend to be getting that tank!

How many species of plant do you reckon are in there now, and were you picking them specific to one particular region of the world or just going for what looked best?

I hope if and when you get round to building this bigger tank you do a similar build log! You're right in saying it's inspiring others to make beautiful habitats for their inhabitants - certainly fuelled me up! What do you feel is the most significant thing you've learned over the whole process?

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hm i dont know at this point but surely around 20 different plants :O
i have tried various small orchids but most of the ones from higher regions which like colder climate have not made it and only a couple of low land orchids (3 species) are left and doing pretty well.
then i think i have 4 different bromeliads which could do better, i enabled the 2nd led light and it seems to help with their growth. they for sure did not like the dryer conditions i had some time ago.
then i have about 5 different ferns...
hm this is getting difficult, let me see where my plant list is (probably out of date)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=637453448

there you go i tried to stay with south American plants but have one unknown fern, a unknown foliage plant and a unknown begonia and there are most likely some plants on that list that i should remove since they did not make it. or did not make it from the wishlist to my tank
of course i had some kind of look in my mind that i tried to aim for but as many things that changes over time.

hmm the most significant thing i learned... there are many things i learned from this tank.
i think the most important thing i learned when it comes to plants is that if its not "climate" controlled and with that i mean the temperatures its best to choose plants that fit in that specific "temperature" region that the tank will be due to the regional climate. that will for sure help the plants thrive and keeps me happy
other than that i certainly learned my lessons on the water feature which was a good attempt but a failure because it leaked into the soil and splashed like crazy with the high overhang. so i wouldn't try a poor man solution on the water feature again and certainly not in a small tank.



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Hi kromar,

I saw some posts from you on raspiviv. I am also trying to get a plant tank done before I try a "finalviv" for frogs. My goal is to automate with rasp and arduino as much as possible, too. How does the DHT22 works over the years, especially under that extreme humidity conditions?
And which lighting and misting system do you use, if I may ask?
hey thats great that you join the automation circle
the DHT22 does a ok job, the only issue i have is that there are a LOT of spikes which need to be filtered to do dynamic weather control and i have not found the time to work on that yet, still in hardware phase but getting there eventually.
i think i am on the 3rd sensor by now but i think that is because of some residue buildup on the sensor over time and i still want to clean one and see if it gets back to normal operation after that.
i think there might be a way of measuring if the sensor gets bad by capturing the amount of bad readings, i had the impression that a couple of weeks before the first one failed i had a ton of spiking going on so that might be worth a try.

i have a SHT21 sensor that i will test at some point, i think it got a bit better high humidity resistance but that needs to be seen.

here is a example of 1 day and you can see a couple of spikes, before the sensor failed it looked way worse.
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very interesting, thanks kromar!

I will try to use 433 MHz radio Power plug sockets to control my devices for on/off state. I am a bit uncomfortable tinkering with relays Any experiences with radio plug sockets?
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very interesting, thanks kromar!

I will try to use 433 MHz radio Power plug sockets to control my devices for on/off state. I am a bit uncomfortable tinkering with relays Any experiences with radio plug sockets?
No i do not have any experience with that but nice idea, let me know how it turns out.
Btw im using a mistking system and 2 led lights from topdogseller on ebay, but only one running most of the time.
They seem to work quite nice for the plants but i had both powersupplies fail and needed to replace them, found some laptop power supplies in the companies electronic garbage that were brand new and work great so far.


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some update pics, i eradicated one of the ferns (Nephrolepis spec. Panama) who started to take over everything and adjusted the climate a bit to make it better suited for one of the orchids (Pleurothallis allenii). that requireed reducing the humidity.

The Gloxinia sylvatica isnt doing so well, im not sure if its winter, the reduced humidity or some kind of fungus that kills her off... or a bit of all three

the Pleurothallis costaricensis (orchid) in one of the pics next to the mist nozzle has started to push out some kind of "branches" which seems strange, maybe she is multiplying this way?

ps: is there a way to upload the full resolution in attached pics? they ended up with some bad resolution so i had to attach with google again so the images might disappear again:/













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Wow, I remember back when you first started this build. It really has grown in and turned out nice. It looks like your epiphytic ferns have been doing really well too. Would you say that they prefer to be more wet, dry, or somewhere in between? Just curious as I should be getting a couple soon.
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Wow, I remember back when you first started this build. It really has grown in and turned out nice. It looks like your epiphytic ferns have been doing really well too. Would you say that they prefer to be more wet, dry, or somewhere in between? Just curious as I should be getting a couple soon.

hmm i would say they dont really care or i do not see a big difference how they grow when i adapt the humidity. however the shoots tend to dry out when they grow towards a region that is quite dry, like the top opening or the tip of the branch in the middle of the tank. other than taht they thrive everywhere

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Default Re: [buildlog] first tank 30g

i got a new lamp some time back since i did not like the old one to much and was also looking for a solution for my future upgrade.
i was looking into plant grow lamps instead of terrarium lamps and found a real nice one that fits what i was looking for. and there are surprising crazy grow lamps on the market
https://www.migrolight.com/product/migro-100/
the lamp has 100w output can can be dimmed all the way down to about 10w and im running her at around 50% since i have her so quite a bit of headroom for the planned tank which you can see a concept below. with the strenght and the lens system it should be no problem to penetrate all the way down.

ah yes the tiny one on the left is the size of my current tank and the right one what i have in mind.



first time i plugged her in it was like i was turning on a sun in my room haha it was on 100% and directed towards me
surprizingly its not blinding (not sure if thats a word) at all unless i look from below into the lamp.



this is a good shot where you can see how strong the shadows are compared to the illuminated regions, that is completely washed out with the old beamswork. i really like that it creates more distinct regions.


the lamp has quite a warm tone to it but its hard to see on most pictures. the first couple of days it was a bit strange, probably because most lamps are more on the blue side.
This picture shows the color a bit better i get when turning it all the way down in the evening.



daytime the plants started to grow quite a bit faster then before i believe and the broms turn really red now witht the new light. i will probably go into a wet season to see how that will affect the whole growth now. currently its rather on the dry side but everything except the moss seems to like it that way.






got 2 new plants

Selaginella erythropus https://bens-jungle.com/navi.php?a=2494&lang=eng

i really like this red fern, it seems to be a slow grower which is nice and i am excited to see how she will develop.


Ficus scandens https://bens-jungle.com/navi.php?a=87&lang=eng
all the way in the back on the wall a small survivor (had a shady spot that it did not like but now its growing
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