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Old 08-25-2015, 02:03 AM
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That background looks great. Love how it already looks worn and grown in with all the algae and everything. You cant fake that look and it usually seems to take a long time to achieve. Its amazing since you haven't even finished your build.

Is the green waterfall hose going to be hidden in the final version?

Also, what is that plant in the pic that is below the underwater shot? Its on the far right and looks like a fern marcgravia.
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That background looks great. Love how it already looks worn and grown in with all the algae and everything. You cant fake that look and it usually seems to take a long time to achieve. Its amazing since you haven't even finished your build.

Is the green waterfall hose going to be hidden in the final version?

Also, what is that plant in the pic that is below the underwater shot? Its on the far right and looks like a fern marcgravia.
unfortunately its almost clean again since i brushed it down to remove any nasty leftovers since i wanted to do a clean start again. but i guess it will be even better once it ages

yes the green tube is going behind the wall, if you look at earlier pictures you can see the construction somewhere. or just look in the next post, there it is in its right place

the plant below the waterfaall is a echinodorus, i think i wrote the exact name (with link) a couple of posts back. but it is a aquarium plant which can grow out of the water so it should survive in high humidity environments. but since i took things apart it doesnt look like it survived.
i dont know what fern it is, its a local one that i picked in the forest, i dont think i will have it in the final build since it can grow really big, like 1m or so
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Old 09-04-2015, 08:14 PM
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so finally i started to put everything together

here are some pictures of the progress

putting in the background and putting some weight on it while the silicon is drying


i put the pump into a enclosed filter mat so it survives in there as long as possible and can be burried:O (probably a bad mistake im doing here)


building the water area


put in my substrate mix and read 1 hour after it that one should take the sphagnum apart to mix to avoid wet spots, so thats probably my 2nd mistake


and finally applied a moss mix to the background and the wood, you wont believe how difficult it was to find a tropical moss mix here. i think its the only supplier in my country that has it, and one is not allowed to order from outside the country
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Old 09-04-2015, 09:00 PM
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You should be allowed to order moss mix from outside the country. It's just not so easy for things that need CITES (like tree fern or orchids). I don't think this applies for moss.
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Thanks. Probably best that you leave it out then lol... Was really cool though.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:19 PM
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yeah im trying to find a fern that looks similar to it but comes from the south america region and stays smaller, so far ive seen nephrolepis spec. but the looks is quite different, so maybe i will give the local one an other try...


anyways, here are some updates

i received some plants and had to find out that my back wall is not really made to hold lots of them. i knew during the building of it that i failed in that regard but guess i will have to make the best of it. so im hoping for the moss and maybe some random ferns and small plants to grow over.

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  • marcgravia umbrellata (creeper)
  • Microgramma nitida (fern)
  • platystele misera (orchid)
  • oncidium meirax (orchid)
  • Fittonia albivenis (ground)
  • Neoregelia carolinae (bromelia)
  • moos-mix (moss)

some things start to grow on the wall, YAY and also some green starts to appear which i guess/hope is the moss











i really like the look of the marcgravia umbrellata (creeper), i expected it to have lot bigger leaves so it was a nice surprise that they are smaller
it was really challanging to find some spots to put the orchids, i will definitely do a ton of fixation points for plants in my next build
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Old 10-05-2015, 06:53 PM
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got some more plants today
  • Peperomia nummularifolia
  • Nephrolepis spec. Panama
  • Asplenium spec. Südamerika
  • Microgramma reptans



and everything planted, didnt know where to put all the fern, so its really crowded on the ground
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Just a heads up, that Nephrolepis (Probably just N. exaltata), gets pretty big, quick. At least 50-60cm (20-24") across. It also sends out rhizomes like there's no tomorrow
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Old 10-06-2015, 05:36 AM
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That is good to know. It was advertised as small/medium so i might have to talk with the seller about this. Thanks for the heads up
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Great job with the build and also excellent job detailing the step by step process you took! Highly valuable
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Great job with the build and also excellent job detailing the step by step process you took! Highly valuable
thanks, im trying to give something back for the information i get from this forum and its amazing projects and people. it would be nice to be able to edit the first post so i could list all the mistakes i made and what worked out well so its all in one place and people could see it at one glance. but hey the way its now everybody can enjoy the whole story

there are some things i dont like so much at the moment with the plants but i guess i will give it some time to grow and work out what i want to change.
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Old 12-19-2015, 07:01 PM
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heres a update on how it looks now compared to when it was planted


01.10.2015 planted 1st batch


05.10.2015 planted 2nd batch


19.12.2015 ~2.5 month later





the bromelia got a awesome color after adding a 2nd beamswork lamp and also starts to grow a new one



the orchid (platystele misera) almost died but shes growing quickly now and i think she blooms soon



some creeping jew i added recently, i hope she grows down over the rock cliff on the left side like the Peperomia nummularifolia







got some liver moss and some java moss today which i planted in a couple of spots


unfortunately oncidium meirax did not survive, i think it was because i watered a lot in the beginning to keep the cement wall wet, but i also dont had a good spot for her so maybe that was a problem as well
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Nice setup - the background is just absolutely amazing!
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Nice setup - the background is just absolutely amazing!
thanks, there was a lot of sweat and blood involved in building it (ok maybe not so much blood) and was a great learning experience, however i would do a couple of things differently next time, like not so much overhang, more crevices for plants and not going all to the top or at least not the whole width.
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heres a update

ther ferns have started to grow new leaves and do well, i thought a long time that they are not gona make it




Peperomia nummularifolia/prostata is blooming on a couple of places
i got some new plats today but expected a lot smaller package, but the palm in there was about one meter high, which means she is probably not fitting into this tank


Gloxinella lindeniana
she is in pretty bad shape so i hope she will make it


Gloxinia sylvatica


Broadleaf lady palm 'Rhapis excelsa (M)'
way bigget than i hoped for

still planted a small one because i think it looks really nice


and pics before and after planting the new plants

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Very nice work! Keep the updates coming.
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That umbellata looks great. Hows the growth?
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That umbellata looks great. Hows the growth?
yes lovely plant she grows really fast, and new sprouts are growing in a couple of places, i think i soon have to trim to keep it in check.
i think she grew about 30-40 cm in lenght since i got her which is about 6 month ago
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yes lovely plant she grows really fast, and new sprouts are growing in a couple of places, i think i soon have to trim to keep it in check.
i think she grew about 30-40 cm in lenght since i got her which is about 6 month ago
If you trim , keep me in mind.
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If you trim , keep me in mind.
Sure, if shipping distance allows it
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finally the moss is doing well, even on the back wall should have gotten that stuff from the beginning
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Fantastic. From start to finish, thank you for sharing all your methods! Credit to you!

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had to wait a long time for warmer temperatures to order some plants and today i got a package with some new plants

heres what i got: (thanks bens-jungle.com for the outstanding service and packaging to survive the long trip!) hope its ok to mention them here:O
Pleurothallis allenii
Neoregelia rot gefleckt spec. Brasilien
Neoregelia spec. Brasilien
Neoregelia fireball rose klein
Neoregelia purple red

it was quite a challenge to put everything in place but im really happy with the final result


Pleurothallis allenii


Neoregelia rot gefleckt spec. Brasilien



Neoregelia spec. Brasilien


Neoregelia purple red


Neoregelia fireball rose klein




planted:







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looks great! awesome growth!
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looks great, what kind of tank are you using and what lighting?
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looks great, what kind of tank are you using and what lighting?
I think its called a euro tank and for lights i use 2 beamslight led fixtures. Both are 6500 k but i run the one in the back on the low light mode. Ah and they have both the 0.5w leds. If you want more specific info i can check later.
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Its definitely a Euro tank with the mesh in the front, where did you pick it up?
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Its definitely a Euro tank with the mesh in the front, where did you pick it up?
i picked it up right next door, but then i live in europe but im not a big fan of this construction, not sure if its just mine that was not built with precision but it i think its not fly proof at all, there are some gaps on the doors and the mesh they used has quite big holes which i would guess that they are to big to keep flies in.
also i closed approximately 80% of the lower mesh opening to keep humidity above 80% without misting all day. so with these openings i would not recommend this for a high humidity tank.

maybe the concept works great on a bigger tank but for this size the openings are to big to hold humidity.

EDIT: hmm i wonder if there is a way to calculate how big the openings need to be for a certain humidity...
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some more growth going on while im tinkering with my raspiviv to automate the climate.

a new mushroom showing up


some fern that needs id


and other fern that needs a id


gloxinia growing slow but steady and creating lots of pups


the new plants seem to like their new home, excited about this new growth

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moved the bromeliad from the left side to the main cluster, i think it feels happier there



some cool effect that i got with the latest pictures
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Nice tank, great job!


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Where did you find that moss mix? It looks awesome


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i acctually got most moss from a local aquarium store, i think it was mostly from dennerle Plant database | Dennerle
and one or two unknown mosses that survived from a epiweb moss mix

here the list of moss that i got:
  • liver moss (unknown name)
  • vesicularia ferriei
  • taxiphyllum barbieri
  • java moss (unknown name)
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Oh so how did you apply it to your viv? Blend it up?


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yes i blended it up, but not too fine, it had pieces of a couple of mm lenght. it turned out this worked really well so i will continue using this method.
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got some more orchids, since the last ones did not do so well i got some lowland orchids which should cope a bit better with higher temperature. i hope they do better than the ones i had so far.

from left to right
  • Pleurothallis allenii
  • Pleurothallis (specklinia) corniculata
  • Pleurothallis costaricensis



and since i know everybody likes pics here are some more










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hm seems the last pics are not working once more (kinda random if linked pics from google photos work) so here is the one with the new orchids again



the orchid area:



bromeliads are creating pups all over the place



a closer pic of the moss, this stuff is growing in really dense now and the other plants love grow on that stuff







and a front shot of yesterday:
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a monthly update, things are growing well

gloxina is after a long time starting to grow bigger


broms



moss from top


fern growing out of top


some more shots










the moss is growing like crazy and is taking over most of the wood and background, so im thinking of reorganizing/replacing some of the wood.
i also feel that the tank is missing something but the space is really limited to do a lot in there, so the planning has started for a bigger tank
the preferred size would be around 120cm high, 100cm width and 60cm+ deep i will most likely do a new thread to gather ideas before rushing into it, so i will add a link here when it begins
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