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Old 05-19-2007, 06:42 PM
 
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Hi everyone im new here and i have just started on my first vivarium, which i am hoping i could keep some Phyllobates Terribilis in some day. i was wanting to install a water feature and put maybe some fish like neon tetras in it, but there is the factor of it needing to be 5 or so inches deep, but if the frogs could drown i can scratch that idea i would highly appreciate everyones opinions. if anyone on here owns any Phyllobates Terrbilis i would much appreciate it if you could post some pictures.

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Old 05-20-2007, 01:09 AM
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I don't know that a tetra would do so well in there, just my $.02, but maybe a small shrimp or something? They're fun to watch, and might keep the algae at bay. There may be fish that would be ok in there, but I just think it's not right to shove a fish in there because you can. Beta's come to mind, as they're always in those tiny little bowls, but I always feel bad for them.
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what size tank is that? Terribilis are noted for drowning, even in very shallow water.

For water that shallow, a betta would be a better option.
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To help drowning issues, try adding something to the water that will allow the frogs to climb out, wether it be a plant or whatever. Terribilises (sp?) are one of my favorite frogs, but Ive never kept them so I cant help out htere.
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Based on the size of the milk jug Iím going to guess the tank is a 30 gallon which is a good size for terribilis. If it were me, I would only put three in there though. I think terribilis deserve 10 gallons per frog. I donít think you will have drowning issues as long as you make the sides of the water feature easily climbable.

Doug, where have you heard about terribilis drowning? I canít say that Iíve ever heard of one drowning. Patty (slatonp), had hers in a tank with a water feature large enough for platys. She once told a story about one of them catching a platy fry and then having the rest come over to see what the little fisherman was so excited about.

As for having fish in there, do you have an easy way to do water changes? If you donít, or donít plan on changing water weekly, I would skip the fish.
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Hi, I have had a little water feature in in both of my mint vivs. They were from 2-4 inches deep and never had any drownings. Although I've only had adults. I would say always have a slope in the water feature so they can climb out. Here's a pic of my current 38 gal viv I had 6 adults in there and they were fine. The water feature is in the right corner its about 3 inches deep right now with max depth of 4 inches.
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Hi thanks for all the responses the tank is actually a 40 gallon breeder.
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is a mini-jet 606 pump ok to use for a waterfall
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Hi thanks for all the responses the tank is actually a 40 gallon breeder.
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Yea, a 606 is fine.



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