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Old 01-23-2007, 10:51 PM
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So, i've finished my background to the best of my knowledge. How does it look? This is my first viv, so I really don't know what i'm doing. :P I think i'm going to slope the substrate from back to front at about a 65 degree angle, so it has more depth.



Any suggestions on substrate? I was hoping I could use eco earth (brick) and the long strand sphagnum moss that I have left over from the background, because I thought that's what I had read. Any thoughts on this are appreciated.
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Old 01-24-2007, 01:46 AM
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Well first off do you have a drain hole? You cant really get much on an answer without knowing that. Most likely either way you will probably need a false bottom or leca/gravel first. After that would depend on lighting and drainage. I would slope it more on like a 10-15 degree angle, if you were to do 65 you would almost be at the top of the viv. BTW for a first viv you did a great job! I really like it! Let us know about the lighting and the drainage and I am sure you will get alot more answers for substrate.
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Your background looks really good. I might use something like that for my next group of PW tanks.

Like Jason said, more details on the rest and we'll have more input.



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Old 01-24-2007, 02:12 AM
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Fair enough, I guess I did leave that out. :P I have the following:


That is the bed-a-beast brick.






I don't know how many inches of each to use. I was thinking 1 inch LECA, 1 inch bed-a-beast mixed with Peat Moss, and 1 inch long strand sphagnum, which I forgot to photograph. It's dry though (same I used in the background) Is that okay? I would do it LECA (bottom), Coco-fiber/Peat Moss, Sphagnum (top).

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Old 01-24-2007, 02:35 AM
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That will work. Just make sure you read the bag of peat moss and make sure there were no chemicals added. Also try to leave a pond on one side to drian the water as it builds up over time. Now hurry up and finish it so we can see what it looks like done. :lol:
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For being a 10g, I would do a soil layer similar to yours, but maybe increase the LECA depth just to increase the water handeling capacity. This is definately a personal prefference thing though, 1" will be fine.



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Right on, thanks guys. I just want to make sure I don't take up too much vertical room, because I feel like i'm leaving the frogs no space. I had no choice other than the 10g right now, because it started as a side project to get a more naturalistic viv going (i'm making a crested cage soon). I'm going to try to leave a small part of a corner open so I can use a turkey baster to remove some of the water, but we'll see how that goes.

Does anyone have any plant suggestions?
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Antone should be able to hook you up with some small broms. Also check out the creeper collection Harry at Cloud Jungle offers. A Mocodes petola would also go nicely in there.

Make sure you add a bunch of springtails to help get rid of mold, which may be a problem on that grapewood.
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Some small broms and creeping fig would look good in there. For the ground you can try macodes petola, selaginella, fittonias or heart ferns or something along those lines.
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Should I go dried sphagnum moss, live moss, or leaf litter on the bottom. Ideas?

Also, do you think I can get any of these plants locally (Irvine, California) at a HD, Lowes, or garden center, or should I order them online?
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Your best bet would be online. You can occasionally find creeping fig at HD, but you'll have to order the others anyway so you might as well get them all from one place.

As for the ground cover, i like leaf litter. It doesn't need any light, looks good, supports microfauna and is easy to get.
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I searched leaf litter, found a million trees, but nothing I noticed in California. Am I doomed?
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Try live oak (native) or magnolia (ornamental). Both are pretty easy to find out here. Just make sure you collect from a clean source where no pesticides are used.
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Thanks man, I appreciate it.
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