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Old 01-16-2014, 08:23 PM
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Default Cork Mosaic: Clear or Black Silicon??

Looking forward to setting up cracked cork mosaic backgrounds on 7 tanks, but stuck on a styling decision - clear or black silicon?

I would like to cork 3 sides of the tanks, but I have 4 20H verts, that I don't think I have enough space to.

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(Yes, I will use GE 1).

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Old 01-16-2014, 08:33 PM
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Looking forward to setting up cracked cork mosaic backgrounds on 7 tanks, but stuck on a styling decision - clear or black silicon?

I would like to cork 3 sides of the tanks, but I have 4 20H verts, that I don't think I have enough space to.

Thoughts?

(Yes, I will use GE 1).

Thanks!!
I think it is harder to find black in GE 1 silicone... But I usually use clear anyways. The silicone should be hidden behind the cork pieces, and even if some squeezes out in the space between pieces, you're going to be packing sphagnum moss in those cracks which will cover any mess up.

Then on the outside of the tanks you can put black contact paper or something to hide the guts. If you're doing a row of tanks on a rack, then only the tanks with exposed sides on each end of the rack would need the contact paper to hide the guts... Or you could just do the back and one side with the cork and leave the glass on the end tanks clear on the other side so you could see in.
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:37 PM
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It doesn't have to be GE 1. Yes, GE 1 will work. What is important is the curing agent. You want an acetic acid cured silicone, if you want to avoid the organotins.
Some safe choices that I use can be seen at this link. http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/par...ml#post1400442
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20H vertical aren't very wide. I'd avoid doing the sides



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Thanks guys! I will skip corking the sides and add a ghostwood brach with a few broms to give the tank some depth. May try the gorilla glue to mount the cork- wasn't aware folks were having good success with that. I'm in a small DC apartment, so something that cures with less of a stench would be great.


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you wont be disappointed with gorilla glue



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I beg your pardon. Do you mean this product? (I don't know gorilla glue)
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Why do you advise against GE 2?


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I haven't seen empirical data with it being linked to frogs specifically, but folks here have pointed to risks mentioned in safety data sheet that may contribute to spindly leg syndrome and problems with egg development. Pumilio (above) points out that it has to do with the curing agent used and recommends a few that have less risk.

I did similar research on PVC cages off gassing with green tree pythons years ago. Risk? Yes. How prevalent is the risk - don't know. And, no hard proof being linked to snakes. Difficult and costly to run trials. But, an easy first step was to get rid of "burned" pvc perches that the snakes use. Similar option here- use a safer option, such as GE1, just incase.
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This is the thread that sparked the silicone debates regarding GE silicone 2 and organotins. http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/par...-bio-seal.html
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I no longer use silicone of any sort. Since I build my tanks in my basement which also houses my collection I use gorilla glue exclusively.....

I have built 3 cork mosaics with gorilla glue and it worked fine.
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I beg your pardon. Do you mean this product? (I don't know gorilla glue)
I have seen people use this kind it expands and bonds to almost anything I am not sure about the wood glue type
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